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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really hope Lane Kiffin quits using so many short passes and bubble screens when Wittek takes over though.


I think that's pretty dependent on how the OL develops. Barkley didn't throw nearly as many short passes last year when he had Kalil protecting his blindside.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thelawoffices wrote:
Bo_Spice wrote:
I really hope Lane Kiffin quits using so many short passes and bubble screens when Wittek takes over though.


I think that's pretty dependent on how the OL develops. Barkley didn't throw nearly as many short passes last year when he had Kalil protecting his blindside.


What do you guys think of Barkley?
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thelawoffices wrote:
Bo_Spice wrote:
I really hope Lane Kiffin quits using so many short passes and bubble screens when Wittek takes over though.


I think that's pretty dependent on how the OL develops. Barkley didn't throw nearly as many short passes last year when he had Kalil protecting his blindside.


What do you guys think of Barkley?


I still like him, although he has regressed this year. He has all the intangibles you would want in a QB, but his physical attributes aren't all that great, although I think his arm strength is pretty underrated around here. My problem with him this season is pretty much squarely on his decision making. The OL has really regressed, and there have been times where he feels the pressure and just tries to force the ball, usually to Lee. If he goes to a team who has a good OL, I think he'll be successful.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
thelawoffices wrote:
Bo_Spice wrote:
I really hope Lane Kiffin quits using so many short passes and bubble screens when Wittek takes over though.


I think that's pretty dependent on how the OL develops. Barkley didn't throw nearly as many short passes last year when he had Kalil protecting his blindside.


What do you guys think of Barkley?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good breakdowns. It'll be interesting to see where he goes in this years weak QB class. I'm guessing high 2nd round.
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Darkness wrote:
thelawoffices wrote:
Bo_Spice wrote:
I really hope Lane Kiffin quits using so many short passes and bubble screens when Wittek takes over though.


I think that's pretty dependent on how the OL develops. Barkley didn't throw nearly as many short passes last year when he had Kalil protecting his blindside.


What do you guys think of Barkley?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
Good breakdowns. It'll be interesting to see where he goes in this years weak QB class. I'm guessing high 2nd round.


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He will go top 5. Likely #1 overall.

He's still a solid QB. USC's Oline is hot garbage this season and that has really effected his play.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything that has Campbell as our QB isnt' something I want. People complain about Carson dinking and dunking from time to time and that's ALL Campbell ever did. Then when he finally did go deep, he's 5 yards off target. Dude was SO overrated.

BUT, he DID dive, he DID break his collarbone, and he IS (thankfully) off this team. Why are we even talking about this?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
Good breakdowns. It'll be interesting to see where he goes in this years weak QB class. I'm guessing high 2nd round.


Barkley??? High 2nd round??? ............ LOLWUT........... did you mean high 2nd as in 2nd overall pick? He'll more than likely be the first QB taken........
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After seeing Campbell last night, do people still wish he was our QB?
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After seeing Campbell last night, do people still wish he was our QB?


Unfortunately, I'm sure of it. Dude was so overrated it's not even funny.
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It wasn't that Campbell was so great as a QB. It's that he was a great fit for what Hue wanted to do. The offense usually ran pretty smoothly with Campbell under center. We would have our hiccups and days where we didn't show up at all, but not any more than we do now (think Denver, Baltimore).

That said, I'm still cool with Palmer for now. We're two late 4th quarter interceptions away from being 5-4, but one Carson Palmer away from being 0-9.
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It wasn't that Campbell was so great as a QB. It's that he was a great fit for what Hue wanted to do. The offense usually ran pretty smoothly with Campbell under center. We would have our hiccups and days where we didn't show up at all, but not any more than we do now (think Denver, Baltimore).

That said, I'm still cool with Palmer for now. We're two late 4th quarter interceptions away from being 5-4, but one Carson Palmer away from being 0-9.


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91jmay wrote:
Jamethus92 wrote:
It wasn't that Campbell was so great as a QB. It's that he was a great fit for what Hue wanted to do. The offense usually ran pretty smoothly with Campbell under center. We would have our hiccups and days where we didn't show up at all, but not any more than we do now (think Denver, Baltimore).

That said, I'm still cool with Palmer for now. We're two late 4th quarter interceptions away from being 5-4, but one Carson Palmer away from being 0-9.


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Agreed without him, we're worse than the Chiefs.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamethus92 wrote:
It wasn't that Campbell was so great as a QB. It's that he was a great fit for what Hue wanted to do. The offense usually ran pretty smoothly with Campbell under center. We would have our hiccups and days where we didn't show up at all, but not any more than we do now (think Denver, Baltimore).

That said, I'm still cool with Palmer for now. We're two late 4th quarter interceptions away from being 5-4, but one Carson Palmer away from being 0-9.


Hue Jackson's as aggressive as they come and Jason Campbell's the opposite. With the Raiders dominant rushing attack, Hue wanted a QB that would capitalize throwing down the field to our speedy playmakers. That's why he was so giddish about adding Palmer. If Palmer played this season with McFadden leading the league in rushing like he did last season, the offense would be very tough to stop.
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