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Nodisrespect


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Carson ignored knapp and call his own plays in the 4th Reply with quote

http://raidersnewsflash.wordpress.com/

Props to Palmer, he needs to take responsiblity and this is a great sign for me. Knapp is stuck in the 90's and it seems it's only a matter of time before he is gone.

This may be dissension but it shows leadership and accountability to me.

No excuses get it done.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a blog? It looks like a badly written blog at that.


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It was a strange time out when the Raiders were in the red zone Palmer still had 3 seconds on the clock and he was going to get the play off but Dennis Allen called a Time Out.



Palmer never looked like he was going to get that play off.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know the truth but do not trust that site one bit.

No sources of any kind, a new site with only 27 total posts looking to get readership. Which they just did, when you found and posted it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
It's a blog? It looks like a badly written blog at that.


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It was a strange time out when the Raiders were in the red zone Palmer still had 3 seconds on the clock and he was going to get the play off but Dennis Allen called a Time Out.



Palmer never looked like he was going to get that play off.
DA alluded to Palmer having the final say on play calls and knapp was crying to DA on the sideline, and suggested we kick a field goal with 1 timeout and 3 minutes left so we could be down by 4 and get the ball back just to.................score a TD.
You can't make this stuff up.
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Nodisrespect


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holyghost wrote:
I don't know the truth but do not trust that site one bit.

No sources of any kind, a new site with only 27 total posts looking to get readership. Which they just did, when you found and posted it.
I would like to believe it's true something changed in the 4th, not 100% on articles accuracy, but something changed.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a difference between running the no huddle and audbiles, and "ignoring" Knapp as the site states.

Something changed in the 4th just like it has before, we ran the no huddle well in desperation time. It doesn't mean Palmer was going entirely against Knapp.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't sight this junk as a source. Clearly doesn't know what they are talking about (not that he/she could spell it anyway).

Palmer and the staff said Knapp give's Palmer 4 plays to choose from in no huddle situations and he calls one based on the look.

That from the mouths of the staff and QB. This source is bunk. Just someone trying to pile it on Knapp.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This report is false. It has no truth to it whatsoever.

The only thing worth discussing here is the fact that we need to see more of the no huddle offense. It's evident this offense performs better when they create a rhythm by playing faster. When we take our time & stall, our entire unit looks lost & doesn't execute.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor Oak wrote:
This report is false. It has no truth to it whatsoever.

The only thing worth discussing here is the fact that we need to see more of the no huddle offense. It's evident this offense performs better when they create a rhythm by playing faster. When we take our time & stall, our entire unit looks lost & doesn't execute.


+1

absolutely agree. The Raiders look like a completely different team when they deploy the no huddle and it's a growing trend both in college and the NFL.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fan sees no huddle and carson palmer shouting words and moving his hands, assumes carson palmer is calling plays because thats all the TV shows. fan is completely oblivious to the headset palmer has in his helmet and the coaches on the sideline. fan goes on website writes blog, other uninformed fans find this site off google and read. profit.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Different perspective of the 'no-huddle' from both palmer and Knapp, good read:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/10/26/knapp-talks-no-huddle-halftime-adjustments-coolest-cat-palmer/
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darbsk wrote:
Different perspective of the 'no-huddle' from both palmer and Knapp, good read:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/10/26/knapp-talks-no-huddle-halftime-adjustments-coolest-cat-palmer/


good read.
I wonder why we dont go into more when teams stack the box. Put DMC out wide and all of a sudden you have a LB covering dmc for a series. id take that.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darbsk wrote:
Different perspective of the 'no-huddle' from both palmer and Knapp, good read:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2012/10/26/knapp-talks-no-huddle-halftime-adjustments-coolest-cat-palmer/


Read the first SENTENCE and it looked like we wrote it here...
Not reading beyond that as I do think there are 'bloggers' here...

Urgency is needed and choices, be it 2-4 plays, I trust Palmer making the final choice over the OC curently...
DMAC should be used as a decoy more if they are keying on him. DMC and Goodson split HB's with DMAC in motion. Either pass or run, if a LB follows DMAC then a big body is gone for Godson, or if it's a pass, the McFadden 'should' burn the guy deep and automatic clear out by WR's so Darren has one on one down the sideline...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheap QB's to compete with Carson next seaon:-

Drew Stanton - imo a real talent that hasn't had a chance yet
David Garrard - apparently ready, after injury lay off
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreadymatt wrote:
cheap QB's to compete with Carson next seaon:-

Drew Stanton - imo a real talent that hasn't had a chance yet
David Garrard - apparently ready, after injury lay off

Compete with Carson? Or Lienert/Pryor/Rookie?

I'm not a Palmer fan but even I know he ain't as bad as those guys.
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