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How bad do we merk them?
just win
23%
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too much to count
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hahaha Chiefs are going 13-3
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broncos suck
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Darkness


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
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I'd like to hear what Allen says to the team after the game. He needs to get them believing again. It feels like the team is getting worse.


Dangerous territory. 2 bad losses. This will test Allen. A lot of risk losing the team now. Scary position to be in as a rookie HC.


I really like Allen as a person and leader too. Sucks to see.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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big_palooka wrote:
Of the starters on defense, I'd keep:

Bryant, Houston, Shaugnessy, Burris, Wheeler

Offense:

Veldeer, Moore, Reece, Wiznewski


And who plays QB? Leinart? Pryor?


My bad. I'd keep Palmer. Unless they decide to go full blowup and rebuild with a young rookie QB.


I think it'd be a mistake to not go D in round 1. The offense isn't great, but it'd be better if the OL was better and if they didn't have to consistently put up 30+ to even have a chance to win. The whole D needs to be blown up, though. I agree that those are pretty much the only guys on D who can stay. I'd keep DHB around, too, but I think we could use a true number 1 receiver. I'd need a new pair of pants if we could somehow land Marqise Lee next year.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
thelawoffices wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Of the starters on defense, I'd keep:

Bryant, Houston, Shaugnessy, Burris, Wheeler

Offense:

Veldeer, Moore, Reece, Wiznewski


And who plays QB? Leinart? Pryor?


My bad. I'd keep Palmer. Unless they decide to go full blowup and rebuild with a young rookie QB.


Terrible QB class, last years was awesome.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thelawoffices wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
thelawoffices wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Of the starters on defense, I'd keep:

Bryant, Houston, Shaugnessy, Burris, Wheeler

Offense:

Veldeer, Moore, Reece, Wiznewski


And who plays QB? Leinart? Pryor?


My bad. I'd keep Palmer. Unless they decide to go full blowup and rebuild with a young rookie QB.


I think it'd be a mistake to not go D in round 1. The offense isn't great, but it'd be better if the OL was better and if they didn't have to consistently put up 30+ to even have a chance to win. The whole D needs to be blown up, though. I agree that those are pretty much the only guys on D who can stay. I'd keep DHB around, too, but I think we could use a true number 1 receiver. I'd need a new pair of pants if we could somehow land Marqise Lee next year.


We definitely need to go D in the draft. I think Allen's smart enough to cut the cord on Knapp after the season, and if he hires the right OC, we'll be much improved on offense from that alone.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
thelawoffices wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Of the starters on defense, I'd keep:

Bryant, Houston, Shaugnessy, Burris, Wheeler

Offense:

Veldeer, Moore, Reece, Wiznewski


And who plays QB? Leinart? Pryor?


My bad. I'd keep Palmer. Unless they decide to go full blowup and rebuild with a young rookie QB.


i want to see that happen tbh. Just press the reset button and start over
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My stomach got a sinking feeling watching this game. Quite disappointing.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DA hired Knapp, who's to say he won't hire someone just as bad if Knapp is fired. He and RM want their system and that system just doesn't fit here right now.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as much as I want a top 5-10 pick I hope Reggie trades back. We need the picks.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tacos wrote:
DA hired Knapp, who's to say he won't hire someone just as bad if Knapp is fired. He and RM want their system and that system just doesn't fit here right now.


The offensive line has been the biggest problem this year, Wiz has struggled at center, Brisiel is average and Carlisle is still starting. Oh yeah and we replaced our weakest link last year (Barnes) with an even weaker link (Smith). We need a RT and LG, if were lucky Bergstrom can fill one of those positions and we can find the other in FA or draft.

If we fix the line this offense will click, Palmer has looked good, just imagine if he had a better pocket and a run game.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

macklemore wrote:
Tacos wrote:
DA hired Knapp, who's to say he won't hire someone just as bad if Knapp is fired. He and RM want their system and that system just doesn't fit here right now.


The offensive line has been the biggest problem this year, Wiz has struggled at center, Brisiel is average and Carlisle is still starting. Oh yeah and we replaced our weakest link last year (Barnes) with an even weaker link (Smith). We need a RT and LG, if were lucky Bergstrom can fill one of those positions and we can find the other in FA or draft.

If we fix the line this offense will click, Palmer has looked good, just imagine if he had a better pocket and a run game.



Barnes is injured, that's why he's not starting.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaiderX wrote:
as much as I want a top 5-10 pick I hope Reggie trades back. We need the picks.


We need a impact player bottom line and trading out we why might miss out on that Opportunity
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blancanieve wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
as much as I want a top 5-10 pick I hope Reggie trades back. We need the picks.


We need a impact player bottom line and trading out we why might miss out on that Opportunity


Wrong, We need new starters at about every position on defense, we need two new starters on the offensive line, we need depth at EVERY position.

An impact player wouldnt help us as much as trading down and getting multiple contributors and depth. Unless that impact player is Von Miller, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin, Calvin Johnson, Ndamukong Suh, Matt Kalil. But I dont see any elite prospects like that in this draft. It kinda sucks to be honest.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blancanieve wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
as much as I want a top 5-10 pick I hope Reggie trades back. We need the picks.


We need a impact player bottom line and trading out we why might miss out on that Opportunity


This draft doesn't look that good to me (at the top) so we might as well try to find a few solid guys later.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im all for trading back, what type of value could the tenth overall yields? Im thinking late first and second?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a feeling that Palmer will retire after this season.
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