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detfan782004
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| bears2308 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | bears2308 wrote: | | More goes on then what you can see on TV. The guy stomped on someone then tried to lie about it. It's very clear the guy has anger issues. Who has a worse track record that is in the NFL right now? |
Ray Lewis, M Vick, Little, Talib, Harrison, Fairley, Burress, Abraham
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Ha. Pretty sure the vote wasn't based on off the field issues. |
Talking on the field too.
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stylish313
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Dirtiest, probably not. Most overrated, probably.
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detfan782004
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| stylish313 wrote: | | Dirtiest, probably not. Most overrated, probably. |
I think he is out of position. The more times I see him line up at DE the more I think it is his spot. One on one he can not be stopped. In the trenches he is doubled way easy.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| detfan782004 wrote: | | bears2308 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | bears2308 wrote: | | More goes on then what you can see on TV. The guy stomped on someone then tried to lie about it. It's very clear the guy has anger issues. Who has a worse track record that is in the NFL right now? |
Ray Lewis, M Vick, Little, Talib, Harrison, Fairley, Burress, Abraham
List goes on and on |
Ha. Pretty sure the vote wasn't based on off the field issues. |
Talking on the field too. |
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Then I disagree with all of the names you listed. |
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detfan782004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| bears2308 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | bears2308 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | bears2308 wrote: | | More goes on then what you can see on TV. The guy stomped on someone then tried to lie about it. It's very clear the guy has anger issues. Who has a worse track record that is in the NFL right now? |
Ray Lewis, M Vick, Little, Talib, Harrison, Fairley, Burress, Abraham
List goes on and on |
Ha. Pretty sure the vote wasn't based on off the field issues. |
Talking on the field too. |
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Then I disagree with all of the names you listed. |
Color me surprised.
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38andy38
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Harrison Smith could be added to the "Dirty" list IMO.
In 2 games he has made it a point to target Calvin's head, I won't be surprised if he receives another fine.
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| detfan782004 wrote: | | stylish313 wrote: | | Dirtiest, probably not. Most overrated, probably. |
I think he is out of position. The more times I see him line up at DE the more I think it is his spot. One on one he can not be stopped. In the trenches he is doubled way easy. |
Suh was good today. Nearly had 2 sacks while being doubled and obviously being held.
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bears2308
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| detfan782004 wrote: | | bears2308 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | bears2308 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | bears2308 wrote: | | More goes on then what you can see on TV. The guy stomped on someone then tried to lie about it. It's very clear the guy has anger issues. Who has a worse track record that is in the NFL right now? |
Ray Lewis, M Vick, Little, Talib, Harrison, Fairley, Burress, Abraham
List goes on and on |
Ha. Pretty sure the vote wasn't based on off the field issues. |
Talking on the field too. |
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Then I disagree with all of the names you listed. |
Color me surprised. |
Care to explain how they are dirty players? Ray Lewis - off the field issues. Michael Vick - off the field issues. Little - off the field issues. Talib - off the field issues. Harrison - plenty of illegal hits but he's a linebacker and doesn't care. He's the only one you can argue. Fairley, Burress, and Abraham are also all off the field issues.
I don't mind how Suh plays. Just sayin' the stomp and horrible attempt at lying is probably the main cause of him getting the vote. Besides that, who really knows what is said or takes place in the trenches? Only the players. Who voted? The players. Hmmm... |
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detfan782004
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| IDOG_det wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | stylish313 wrote: | | Dirtiest, probably not. Most overrated, probably. |
I think he is out of position. The more times I see him line up at DE the more I think it is his spot. One on one he can not be stopped. In the trenches he is doubled way easy. |
Suh was good today. Nearly had 2 sacks while being doubled and obviously being held. |
Good sure. He is supposed to be great and at DE I think he dominates.
He has all the tools to be a great DE. He is not a hefty DT. He has the speed and strength combo to pull off DE
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| detfan782004 wrote: | | IDOG_det wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | stylish313 wrote: | | Dirtiest, probably not. Most overrated, probably. |
I think he is out of position. The more times I see him line up at DE the more I think it is his spot. One on one he can not be stopped. In the trenches he is doubled way easy. |
Suh was good today. Nearly had 2 sacks while being doubled and obviously being held. |
Good sure. He is supposed to be great and at DE I think he dominates.
He has all the tools to be a great DE. He is not a hefty DT. He has the speed and strength combo to pull off DE |
Totally agree. Would love to see 3-4 looks.
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| IDOG_det wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | IDOG_det wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | stylish313 wrote: | | Dirtiest, probably not. Most overrated, probably. |
I think he is out of position. The more times I see him line up at DE the more I think it is his spot. One on one he can not be stopped. In the trenches he is doubled way easy. |
Suh was good today. Nearly had 2 sacks while being doubled and obviously being held. |
Good sure. He is supposed to be great and at DE I think he dominates.
He has all the tools to be a great DE. He is not a hefty DT. He has the speed and strength combo to pull off DE |
Totally agree. Would love to see 3-4 looks. |
With Manti Te'o as our Brian Cushing 
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IDOG_det
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| DetroitSpirit wrote: | | IDOG_det wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | IDOG_det wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | stylish313 wrote: | | Dirtiest, probably not. Most overrated, probably. |
I think he is out of position. The more times I see him line up at DE the more I think it is his spot. One on one he can not be stopped. In the trenches he is doubled way easy. |
Suh was good today. Nearly had 2 sacks while being doubled and obviously being held. |
Good sure. He is supposed to be great and at DE I think he dominates.
He has all the tools to be a great DE. He is not a hefty DT. He has the speed and strength combo to pull off DE |
Totally agree. Would love to see 3-4 looks. |
With Manti Te'o as our Brian Cushing |
Sounds nice
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diehardlionfan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| stylish313 wrote: | | Dirtiest, probably not. Most overrated, probably. |
He certainly hasn't lived up to his rookie year. While he's an effective player he certainly isn't worth his paycheque.
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tytalton
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Whats worse -
Having the 'dirtiest' player in the nfl or being the team that needed 'completing the process' as a springboard into the playoffs? |
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stylish313
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Apparently Schwartz went on 97.1 proclaiming Suh played his best game as a Lion Sunday- and even went as far to say that anyone stating otherwise has a separate agenda from the truth.
I think Schwartz is in over his head. His team has come out ready to play only once this season, and it took losing to two scrub teams before he stomped out the kinks in STs.
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