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24isthelaw
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He's not wrong. |
Now if only we could find another one of them.
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24isthelaw
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | 24isthelaw wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | Spikes didn't exactly endear himself.
And aside from a PD and a FF, he had a miserable game, just like all the Pats' LBs. |
So now that its over... who actually "showed up" today? The defense as a unit was terrible. Brady was bad. Welker dropped two balls. Ridley? |
Brady wasn't bad. Woodhead and Ridley were fine.
The entire defense was awful with only Wilfork, Cunningham and Arrington being acceptable. |
Looked skittish in the pocket, overthrew Gronk in the 4th quarter, and short-armed Woodhead at the goal line. By his standards I'd call that a bad game.
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Sciz
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| 24isthelaw wrote: | | So now that its over... who actually "showed up" today? The defense as a unit was terrible. Brady was bad. Welker dropped two balls. Ridley? |
Woodhead, whichever tackle was on Mario Williams (he switched sides a lot), McCourty. That's probably about it as far as "good" games. Arrington, Branch, Gronkowski, and Brady probably go in the "not bad" category.
Oh yeah, forgot Cunningham.
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Tzimisce
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Brady's game would've looked much better if Branch and Welker had been able to hold onto the ball.
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| 24isthelaw wrote: |
Looked skittish in the pocket, overthrew Gronk in the 4th quarter, and short-armed Woodhead at the goal line. By his standards I'd call that a bad game. |
That's a pretty normal game. The Woodhead play, he was scrambling to get away from the defender and Woodhead would have been flagged for illegal touching anyway.
He only had one or two really bad throws except on plays where he was just heaving the ball down the field. It wasn't an especially great game, but wasn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Tzimisce
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Do we have to worry about the LB corps now, or was this game an aberration? Because I really don't want to think there are major deficiencies in the front-7 now, on top of the mess in the secondary. 
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Tzimisce wrote: | | Do we have to worry about the LB corps now, or was this game an aberration? Because I really don't want to think there are major deficiencies in the front-7 now, on top of the mess in the secondary. |
They suck in coverage, that's nothing new. Most teams are so busy working the terrible DB's that the LB's struggles in coverage don't get exploited too badly.
The team badly needs a coverage nickel LB.
In run support, it was mostly Hightower struggling but the DL wasn't doing the LB's any favors. The DE's were taking themselves out of the play with regularity and the non-Wilfork DT's (including Cunningham) were just awful in the run game.
Everyone was bad. Hightower's youth and inexperience was exposed and the "bad" Ninkovich and Love showed up. When those 2 guys have off-days (or big parts of the game), the D simply can't function. Today was a great example as to why Ninkovich and Love need to be replaced as starters - or at least 1 of them. |
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Tzimisce
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | Do we have to worry about the LB corps now, or was this game an aberration? Because I really don't want to think there are major deficiencies in the front-7 now, on top of the mess in the secondary. |
They suck in coverage, that's nothing new. Most teams are so busy working the terrible DB's that the LB's struggles in coverage don't get exploited too badly. |
It's usually Spikes who gets abused in coverage, but Mayo didn't look like himself today, either.
Tackling was pitiful all around.
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Tzimisce wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | Do we have to worry about the LB corps now, or was this game an aberration? Because I really don't want to think there are major deficiencies in the front-7 now, on top of the mess in the secondary. |
They suck in coverage, that's nothing new. Most teams are so busy working the terrible DB's that the LB's struggles in coverage don't get exploited too badly. |
It's usually Spikes who gets abused in coverage, but Mayo didn't look like himself today, either.
Tackling was pitiful all around. |
Mayo isn't bad in coverage, but good TE's have often given him problems |
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Wolverine_Joe
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| 24isthelaw wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | 24isthelaw wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | Spikes didn't exactly endear himself.
And aside from a PD and a FF, he had a miserable game, just like all the Pats' LBs. |
So now that its over... who actually "showed up" today? The defense as a unit was terrible. Brady was bad. Welker dropped two balls. Ridley? |
Brady wasn't bad. Woodhead and Ridley were fine.
The entire defense was awful with only Wilfork, Cunningham and Arrington being acceptable. |
Looked skittish in the pocket, overthrew Gronk in the 4th quarter, and short-armed Woodhead at the goal line. By his standards I'd call that a bad game. |
certainly wasn't perfect, but brady wasn't bad. without the idiotic drops it would've been a typical 300 3td day for brady. |
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patsfan06
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone who was watching on TV know how many times we blitzed today? |
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| patsfan06 wrote: | | Anyone who was watching on TV know how many times we blitzed today? |
Too many. They seemed to get burned badly on most of them. |
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patsfan06
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | patsfan06 wrote: | | Anyone who was watching on TV know how many times we blitzed today? |
Too many. They seemed to get burned badly on most of them. |
We seemed to get burned badly on 75% of the defensive plays. |
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mcmurtry86
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| patsfan06 wrote: | | mcmurtry86 wrote: | | patsfan06 wrote: | | Anyone who was watching on TV know how many times we blitzed today? |
Too many. They seemed to get burned badly on most of them. |
We seemed to get burned badly on 75% of the defensive plays. |
Yes, and the blitzes were especially unproductive. |
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goldfishwars
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Tzimisce wrote: | | Do we have to worry about the LB corps now, or was this game an aberration? Because I really don't want to think there are major deficiencies in the front-7 now, on top of the mess in the secondary. |
They suck in coverage, that's nothing new. Most teams are so busy working the terrible DB's that the LB's struggles in coverage don't get exploited too badly.
The team badly needs a coverage nickel LB.
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I wonder if they'll look at Khaseem Greene from Rutgers in the draft. BB loves his Rutgers guys and Greene is a Wesley Woodyard nickel line backer clone - I like him a lot.
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