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JetFanSince85
Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 503
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| moham-17 wrote: | You don't let a good coach go just because he has a rough stretch.
Ryan is still green between the ears when it comes to running a team; give him time and he's going to develop into a great HC.
See the Texans, who I'm pretty sure are fairly happy that they didn't boot Kubiak out the door despite a few bad seasons. They saw potential, and allowed him to develop, just like you would a player at a new position. |
Yeah, Arain Foster fell into his lap. |
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KBS756
Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3148
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I believe in Rex, and it should be obvious to anyone who watches the NFL closely you do not remove a good coach just because he has a rough time for a couple seasons especially one where we have lost a key offensive weapon... and arguably the best defensive player in the NFL.
Also noting the fact we have yet to have a losing season under Rex... And if this season is it will be his first. The problems we have is in getting the right players at the right price and that falls on GM. Rex is a great defensive mind and motivational Coach, he's emotional and passionate.
And for anyone who says Rex constantly runs his mouth ... when the media asks you questions to lead you into it are you supposed to project confidence or say "Yea You'll See". He has confidence in his ability as well as his teams, and I have confidence in him.
I'd say Tanny is on the hot seat but Rex is gonna be safe. Unless our owner is an Idiot and decides hes gonna do somethin outta the grief he got from Mitt Romney losing. I wish we could trade owners for someone who is actually passionate about his team winning rather than passionate about it being mentioned in the newspaper. |
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moham-17 
Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 3704 Location: The Boro
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| JetFanSince85 wrote: | | moham-17 wrote: | You don't let a good coach go just because he has a rough stretch.
Ryan is still green between the ears when it comes to running a team; give him time and he's going to develop into a great HC.
See the Texans, who I'm pretty sure are fairly happy that they didn't boot Kubiak out the door despite a few bad seasons. They saw potential, and allowed him to develop, just like you would a player at a new position. |
Yeah, Arain Foster fell into his lap. |
Good point, Gary Kubiak is a great coach because they have Arian Foster.... |
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jetsfan4life51 
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 30488 Location: lawn guy land
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| moham-17 wrote: | | JetFanSince85 wrote: | | moham-17 wrote: | You don't let a good coach go just because he has a rough stretch.
Ryan is still green between the ears when it comes to running a team; give him time and he's going to develop into a great HC.
See the Texans, who I'm pretty sure are fairly happy that they didn't boot Kubiak out the door despite a few bad seasons. They saw potential, and allowed him to develop, just like you would a player at a new position. |
Yeah, Arain Foster fell into his lap. |
Good point, Gary Kubiak is a great coach because they have Arian Foster.... |
The correction is Wade Phillips fell into his lap. _________________
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Jetsman82 
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 18350
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:34 am Post subject: |
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In today's NFL, you simply can't sustain success without a great QB. Mark Sanchez is not that QB. If the Jets don't make any changes at QB either later on this season, or next season, I think Rex has to go down with the ship.
IMO, Rex still has time to bail on Sanchez before they both get dragged down. |
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ekill08x 
Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 7477 Location: Patchogue, New York
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| Jetsman82 wrote: | In today's NFL, you simply can't sustain success without a great QB. Mark Sanchez is not that QB. If the Jets don't make any changes at QB either later on this season, or next season, I think Rex has to go down with the ship.
IMO, Rex still has time to bail on Sanchez before they both get dragged down. |
LOL Mark Sanchez isn't even CLOSE to that type of QB. We need an offensive overhaul. This team is just such a mess its not even funny. Its so sad how bad Rex messed up what Mangini began to build. I really wish we kept Mangini and hired Rob Ryan as D Coordinator. We'd be much better off today then we are right now. _________________
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Rich51
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 659 Location: WPB Fl via Jc NJ
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:30 am Post subject: |
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This is hard. I don't believe that everything good or bad falls on the head coach unless he has all the power. It's more about the team, not just the players, but the FO, the scouts, the positional coaches, etc.
The jets have made a lot of questional decisions that haven't paid off. For example getting Tebow after signing a legitimate (IMO) backup in Stanton; letting Braylon go and keeping Holmes; giving multi year contracts to older players like Pace and Scott; giving away draft choices; ignoring obvious weaknesses, for example after last season it was obvious that two of our biggest needs were OLB and RT, and we didn't address either in FA or the draft; trading up to draft Sanchez instead of not seeing if he or Freeman fell to them; not giving Sanchez any competition for the job (For example, Tannehill had to win the job from Gerrard and Moore); letting Lowery and Coleman go.
Now if Tebow was adding a positive wrinkle, and Holmes' personality wasn't a detriment to the team and Scott was still performing at a high level, and Mark was showing consistency and good decision making, Rex wouldn't be on the hot seat. But they haven't. In a lot of jobs if you're responsible an make a lot of bad decisions you get canned or at least demoted
I think Rex knows defense but doesn't have the players either because of injury or his overrating them, but he fails completely on offense. Maybe he can learn how to be more objective but I get the impression that he's just too stubborn. I hope I'm wrong because he gave us two of the most exciting seasons I've had since I started following them back in 65 .
On the other hand Tanny has to go. We need a football mind as gm. Someone who can look at the whole team and address our weaknesses. |
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jetsfan4life51 
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 30488 Location: lawn guy land
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Malik
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 2824
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| jetsfan4life51 wrote: | http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/new-york-jets/roster/2006
Mangini took one of the least talented teams and offenses of all time into the playoffs. |
Outside of Vilma and like two of those current Jets, I don't think a single player on that roster is either starting or even still in the league. |
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Jetsman82 
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 18350
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| jetsfan4life51 wrote: | http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/new-york-jets/roster/2006
Mangini took one of the least talented teams and offenses of all time into the playoffs. |
That was a classic case of a new coach getting a team to overachieve.
We all know what happened thereafter. |
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richie jets
Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Posts: 688 Location: yonkers
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm so glad this thread is here . You watch Miami play the last two weeks you realize they are terrible except that Rex was do out coached by philbin we were blown out. And when is he going to put the kibosh on the Tebow experiment it has done nothing but harm |
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swi7ch
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, I believe in him. He is purposely tanking the season by putting Sanchez out there so he could replace him next year in the draft. |
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jetsfan4life51 
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 30488 Location: lawn guy land
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe in the combo of Sanchez, Rex, Tanny, Woody.
Maybe Rex could make it with a better cast? IDK. _________________
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Jetfan66 
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 5307 Location: Floral Park, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| swi7ch wrote: | | Yes, I believe in him. He is purposely tanking the season by putting Sanchez out there so he could replace him next year in the draft. |
Except there isn't a QB in the draft that is a surefire thing. We'll just draft one of the guys 1st overall, watch him bust and be in the same position in 4 years. _________________
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KBS756
Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3148
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Rex isnt the problem ... but god the talent on our team is ... |
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