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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hammertime52 wrote:
Hakeem Nicks >>> J Mac. If you dont believe this stop kidding yourself.


Great, because nobody is saying otherwise.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised by the hate on roseman. Am I the only one that see's the past few seasons as the following:

1. Vick comes out of nowhere to dominate league while we are supposed to be rebuilding.
2. Reid, seeing another window, tries to quickly build up a defense to support the offense.
3. Howie successfully brings in top free agents all the while keeping us under cap.
4. Vick regresses and the D never comes together.

Reid had to go for it, he made the opposite mistake of not adding pieces earlier in his tenure. Didn't work out. However, I give roseman credit for getting the players here to give Reid a chance.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hammertime52 wrote:
Hakeem Nicks >>> J Mac. If you dont believe this stop kidding yourself.


Yes because this what the argument is about Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beachside_eagle wrote:
I give roseman credit for getting the players here to give Reid a chance.


Nnamdi? Jenkins? Vince Young? Demetrus Bell? Steve Smith? Laughing None were worth the money. The free agency was a total failure!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PowerElite wrote:
beachside_eagle wrote:
I give roseman credit for getting the players here to give Reid a chance.


Nnamdi? Jenkins? Vince Young? Demetrus Bell? Steve Smith? Laughing None were worth the money. The free agency was a total failure!


Babin, Vick....

The list goes on
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
PowerElite wrote:
beachside_eagle wrote:
I give roseman credit for getting the players here to give Reid a chance.


Nnamdi? Jenkins? Vince Young? Demetrus Bell? Steve Smith? Laughing None were worth the money. The free agency was a total failure!


Babin, Vick....

The list goes on


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Blahman88 wrote:
marky_b27 wrote:
PowerElite wrote:
beachside_eagle wrote:
I give roseman credit for getting the players here to give Reid a chance.


Nnamdi? Jenkins? Vince Young? Demetrus Bell? Steve Smith? Laughing None were worth the money. The free agency was a total failure!


Babin, Vick....

The list goes on


Ronnie Brown, DRC, Steve the Pirate, Zeus, The Red Power Ranger, Michaelangelo's David, Steve Buscemi, Colonel Sanders, Iron Mike Tyson, Big Bird, David Hasselhof, Jean Claude Van Damme


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nnamdi at the time was a bargain, have he been worth the average of 12 mill a year, no, but that's also on the coaches using him wrong, and him taking a step back.

Babin's 18 sacks for 5,5 average is brilliant. Most teams pay ~1 million on average for sack, Players A makes 10 million and is most likely in the 10-12 sack range.

Cullen Jenkins at 5 or 6 a year is solid.

Some of these players just regressed, which is what can happen with 30 year old FA's.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nnamdi at the time was a bargain, have he been worth the average of 12 mill a year, no, but that's also on the coaches using him wrong, and him taking a step back.

Babin's 18 sacks for 5,5 average is brilliant. Most teams pay ~1 million on average for sack, Players A makes 10 million and is most likely in the 10-12 sack range.

Cullen Jenkins at 5 or 6 a year is solid.

Some of these players just regressed, which is what can happen with 30 year old FA's.


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Vick....


The fatal flaw in this grouping is that Vick played at a high level I'm pretty sure franchise caliber QBs make around what he was making plus add the out clause that we're soon approaching.

And like Nnamdi I blame AR and the coaching staff for not using him correctly. Thinking they can run practically the same O without any tweaks or adjustments from what they saw at the tail end of '10.

EDIT: Add the fact that he was the last QB aside from Brees/Peyton to sign a big contract yeah I can see that that deal in 2011. I wish they would've done something more like Brees where the cap hit isn't so high (40mil due 2012 with a 10.4 cap hit) to go along with the out clause.
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We should have stuck with Kolbatron and traded Vick for a first or a second at the end of 2010.
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We should have stuck with Kolbatron and traded Vick for a first or a second at the end of 2010.


Hindsight Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oland11 wrote:
We should have stuck with Kolbatron and traded Vick for a first or a second at the end of 2010.


Hindsight Wink


We'd still be in the crapper, and I was Pro giving Kolb a go
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We'd still be in the crapper, and I was Pro giving Kolb a go


Yeah we would. I'm already more convinced with Foles than I ever was with Kolb.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blahman88 wrote:
RainbowCarebear wrote:
oland11 wrote:
We should have stuck with Kolbatron and traded Vick for a first or a second at the end of 2010.


Hindsight Wink


We'd still be in the crapper, and I was Pro giving Kolb a go


I still, to this day, believe that Kolb is a good quarterback. He's been put in an awful situation in Arizona, but he's played well.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eagles_808 wrote:
Blahman88 wrote:
We'd still be in the crapper, and I was Pro giving Kolb a go


Yeah we would. I'm already more convinced with Foles than I ever was with Kolb.

Yea the only time I thought he would amount to anything was when I was trying to convince Arizona fans that they wanted to give up alot to get him.
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