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| What would you grade this offseason? |
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| B (80-90%) almost everything, missing a piece or 2 |
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23% |
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| C (65-80%) Im really not happy with it |
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23% |
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| F (-65%) This would be a terrible offseason |
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30% |
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superbowlbound
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 Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: SBB's full Offseason Mocker... Many should be HAPPY!! |
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Trade Revis to TB for 1st + 3rd +4th
Trade 1st (#9) to STL for 1st(via Wash #22) 2nd
Cuts:
Tim Tebow, QB= 1 mil
Sione Pouha, NT= 4mil
Cap Relief= 4 mil
Estimated Cap Space= 12 mil
[b]Restructure:
-Harris =6.9 mil saved
- Cro= 2.2 mil saved (+ 2 yr extension)
- Mangold= 2.4 mil saved
All saved = 11.5 mil
Estimated Cap Space= 23.5 mil
Resign:
Laron Landry, FS- 4 years 24 mil (7 mil guaranteed- cap hit of 4.5 mil)
Mike Devito, DE- 2 years 5 mil (2 mil guaranteed, cap hit of 2 mil)
Nick Folk, K- 1 year league minimum
Braylon Edwards, WR- 1 year league minimum
Austin Howard- 1st round tender
Jeff Cumberland- 2nd round tender
Spent on resigning= 10.5 mil (ish)
Estimated Cap Space= 13.0mil
FA:
Geoffry Schwartz, OG- 3 years 9.5 mil (3.5 mil guaranteed, 3 mil cap hit)
David Gerrard, QB- 1 year league minimum
Spent on FA= 3.5 mil
Estimated Cap Space= 10.4
NFL Draft
1st Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
1st (via TB via STL via Wash) Jonathon Cooper, OG, UNC
2nd: Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Missouri
2nd (via Stl) Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
3rd Tyann Matheiu, CB, LSU
3rd (via TB) Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
4th:Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas
4th ( via TB) Devin Taylor, DE/OLB, South Carolina
5th: Duke Williams, SS, Nevada
6th: Miguel Maysonet, RB, Stony Brook
7th: Luke Marquardt, OT, Azusa Pacific
Depth Chart:
RookieFree Agent
QB: Geno Smith, David Gerrard, Mark Sanchez, Greg McElroy
RB: Knile Davis, Bilal Powell, Miguel Maysonet
WR1: Santonio Holmes, Stephin Hill
TE: Travis Kelce, Jeff Cumberland, Hayden Smith
LT: D’Brick
LG: Jonathon Cooper, Vlad Ducasse
OC: Mangold
RG: Jeff Schwartz
RT: Austin Howard, Luke Marquardt
WR2: Stedman Bailey, Braylon Ewards
Slot WR: Jeremy Kerley
Defense:
CB1: Antonio Cromartie, Ellis Lankster
LOLB: Jamie Collins, Garret McIntyre
LILB: David Harris
LE: Quinton Coples
NT: Kendrick Ellis
RE: Muhammad Wilkerson
RILB: Demario Davis, Nick Bellore
ROLB: Devin Taylor, Ricky Sapp
CB2: Kyle Wilson, Tyrann Matheiu
FS: Laron Landry, Josh Bush
SS: Duke Williams, Antonio Allen
SP:
K: Nick Folk
P: Robert Malone
KR: Tyrann Matheiu/Holmes
PR: Matheiu/Holmes
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barnaby8787
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| Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: SBB's full Offseason Mocker... Many should be HAPPY!! |
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| superbowlbound wrote: | Trade Revis+ Pouha to TB for 1st + 3rd +4th
Trade 1st (#9) to STL for 1st(via Wash #22) 2nd
Trade McKnight to Denver for conditional 3rd rounder 2014 (as high as 3rd, low as 6th)
Trade Tim Tebow to jacksonville for conditional 2014 (as high as 3rd, as low as a 7th)... if Tebow makes the pro-bowl (3nd), starts (4th), gets 50% of snaps (5th), less than 50% (6th), cut/let go/traded (7th)
Estimated Cap Space= 11.9 mil
[b]Restructure:
-Harris =6.9 mil saved
- Cro= 2.2 mil saved (+ 2 yr extension)
- Mangold= 2.4 mil saved
All saved = 11.5 mil
Estimated Cap Space= 23.4 mil
Resign:
Laron Landry, FS- 4 years 24 mil (7 mil guaranteed- cap hit of 4.5 mil)
Mike Devito, DE- 2 years 5 mil (2 mil guaranteed, cap hit of 2 mil)
Nick Folk, K- 1 year league minimum
Braylon Edwards, WR- 1 year league minimum
Austin Howard- 1st round tender
Jeff Cumberland- 2nd round tender
Spent on resigning= 10.5 mil (ish)
Estimated Cap Space= 12.9 mil
FA:
Geoffry Schwartz, OG- 3 years 9.5 mil (3.5 mil guaranteed, 3 mil cap hit)
David Gerrard, QB- 1 year league minimum
Spent on FA= 3.5 mil
Estimated Cap Space= 10.4
NFL Draft
1st Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
1st (via TB via STL via Wash) Jonathon Cooper, OG, UNC
2nd: Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Missouri
2nd (via Stl) Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
3rd Tyann Matheiu, CB, LSU
3rd (via TB) Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
4th:Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas
4th ( via TB) Devin Taylor, DE/OLB, South Carolina
5th: Duke Williams, SS, Nevada
6th: Miguel Maysonet, RB, Stony Brook
7th: Luke Marquardt, OT, Azusa Pacific
Depth Chart:
RookieFree Agent
QB: Geno Smith, David Gerrard, Mark Sanchez, Greg McElroy
RB: Knile Davis, Bilal Powell, Miguel Maysonet
WR1: Santonio Holmes, Stephin Hill
TE: Travis Kelce, Jeff Cumberland, Hayden Smith
LT: D’Brick
LG: Jonathon Cooper, Vlad Ducasse
OC: Mangold
RG: Jeff Schwartz
RT: Austin Howard, Luke Marquardt
WR2: Stedman Bailey, Braylon Ewards
Slot WR: Jeremy Kerley
Defense:
CB1: Antonio Cromartie, Ellis Lankster
LOLB: Jamie Collins, Garret McIntyre
LILB: David Harris
LE: Quinton Coples
NT: Kendrick Ellis
RE: Muhammad Wilkerson
RILB: Demario Davis, Nick Bellore
ROLB: Devin Taylor, Ricky Sapp
CB2: Kyle Wilson, Tyrann Matheiu
FS: Laron Landry, Josh Bush
SS: Duke Williams, Antonio Allen
SP:
K: Nick Folk
P: Robert Malone
KR: Tyrann Matheiu/Holmes
PR: Matheiu/Holmes
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Tampa Bay has zero need for Pouha and won't give us that many picks in this draft. Why would denver want mcknight? Jacksonville already made it clear that they don't want tebow and would never trade a conditional pick for him. |
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jimbo1904
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| I gave you a B. I really dont want a QB in the first. I just dont see Geno at the same level as an RGIII. Personally i would rather draft an OLB in the first and a QB in the second or 3rd. Just my opinion. |
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RDawg10
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the jets arent drafting geno... they will draft somebody 2-4. Geno is not good anyway, way to overhyped.
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Revis4president
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| RDawg10 wrote: | | the jets arent drafting geno... they will draft somebody 2-4. Geno is not good anyway, way to overhyped. |
I agree, the guy is extremely innaccurate at times and cant be successful after his 1st read is gone. Scouts are finally starting to realize that when evaluating his tape. No quarterback in this draft is worthy of being drafted in the 1st round.
Draft Landry Jones in the 3rd-4th round. |
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barnaby8787
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| Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Revis4president wrote: | | RDawg10 wrote: | | the jets arent drafting geno... they will draft somebody 2-4. Geno is not good anyway, way to overhyped. |
I agree, the guy is extremely innaccurate at times and cant be successful after his 1st read is gone. Scouts are finally starting to realize that when evaluating his tape. No quarterback in this draft is worthy of being drafted in the 1st round.
Draft Landry Jones in the 3rd-4th round. |
Landry Jones? At least say someone like Zac Dysert, Mike Glennon, etc. |
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jetsfan4life51
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I would LOVE Geno to Bailey.
But Mathieu in the 3rd alone makes me hate this offseason.
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Imarobot
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| jetsfan4life51 wrote: | I would LOVE Geno to Bailey.
But Mathieu in the 3rd alone makes me hate this offseason. |
and Knile Davis as our starting runningback 
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sandwhich
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:51 am Post subject: |
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McKnight for a 3rd? We used a 4th on him and he's been disappointing outside of his kick returning role. His value has decreased not increased. There's a lot about that trade that makes no sense actually. Denver's got an excellent return guy already. they've got their speedy back with Hillaman. Reports are that they're looking for a power RB with excellent pass blocking skills (something McKnight can't seem to get right).
Draft looks alright. If the Jets like Geno I won't object to it, but I don't expect them to. Collins is fine, though I'm not crazy about him as most others are. Bailey is a good pick.
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superbowlbound
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| Imarobot wrote: | | jetsfan4life51 wrote: | I would LOVE Geno to Bailey.
But Mathieu in the 3rd alone makes me hate this offseason. |
and Knile Davis as our starting runningback |
There's not 1 other guy in the NFL that can run a 4.3 at 220lbs.... he had a new coaching staff who he hated and was returning from injury...
you cant find potential like Kniles Davis anywhere else... he reminds me of a faster Michael Bush (bush also had knocks on him about his toughness) |
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Revis4president
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| superbowlbound wrote: | | Imarobot wrote: | | jetsfan4life51 wrote: | I would LOVE Geno to Bailey.
But Mathieu in the 3rd alone makes me hate this offseason. |
and Knile Davis as our starting runningback |
There's not 1 other guy in the NFL that can run a 4.3 at 220lbs.... he had a new coaching staff who he hated and was returning from injury...
you cant find potential like Kniles Davis anywhere else... he reminds me of a faster Michael Bush (bush also had knocks on him about his toughness) |
Kniles Davis is in my eyes the demarco murray of this year. I love everything about him as a prospect.
Arkansas had terrible offensive lineman last year and got man handled up front. In 2010 the guy was a monster, then got injured in 2011, then got handed a new coaching staff in 2012 that was utterly horrible. The guy has all the intangibles to be a late round sleeper. Hes got size, speed, and acceleration to maybe be the best running back in the class. Due to injury woes and a troubled past season, he will go in the 3-4 round. I dont really see anyone thats physically going to be able to dominate but if i wanted to take a chance on a guy that could, id say davis. |
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superbowlbound
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| Revis4president wrote: | | superbowlbound wrote: | | Imarobot wrote: | | jetsfan4life51 wrote: | I would LOVE Geno to Bailey.
But Mathieu in the 3rd alone makes me hate this offseason. |
and Knile Davis as our starting runningback |
There's not 1 other guy in the NFL that can run a 4.3 at 220lbs.... he had a new coaching staff who he hated and was returning from injury...
you cant find potential like Kniles Davis anywhere else... he reminds me of a faster Michael Bush (bush also had knocks on him about his toughness) |
Kniles Davis is in my eyes the demarco murray of this year. I love everything about him as a prospect.
Arkansas had terrible offensive lineman last year and got man handled up front. In 2010 the guy was a monster, then got injured in 2011, then got handed a new coaching staff in 2012 that was utterly horrible. The guy has all the intangibles to be a late round sleeper. Hes got size, speed, and acceleration to maybe be the best running back in the class. Due to injury woes and a troubled past season, he will go in the 3-4 round. I dont really see anyone thats physically going to be able to dominate but if i wanted to take a chance on a guy that could, id say davis. |
Like i said... when was the last time a 220+ lb RB ran a sub 4.4??
I dont even think Adrian Peterson did... and CJ was 190 lbs
.....Knile Davis has a chance to be the next great RB. No other RB in this draft comes close to having his size/speed |
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Revis4president
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| Running back is the one position that size and speed is so important. For wide receivers, size and speed doesnt mean much because you need to be able to create separation, catch the ball, and run good routes. As a scout, you always realize for a running back that you cant teach speed and size. The fact that a guy ran like you said SBB, a 4.3 at 220, is pretty insane. Like i said, theres no dominant looking running backs in this years draft from the outside looking in. But Knile Davis is a guy that could surprise everyone. |
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superbowlbound
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| Revis4president wrote: | | Running back is the one position that size and speed is so important. For wide receivers, size and speed doesnt mean much because you need to be able to create separation, catch the ball, and run good routes. As a scout, you always realize for a running back that you cant teach speed and size. The fact that a guy ran like you said SBB, a 4.3 at 220, is pretty insane. Like i said, theres no dominant looking running backs in this years draft from the outside looking in. But Knile Davis is a guy that could surprise everyone. |
And look at his 2010.... you can't say he doesnt have talent..... in 2010 we all projected Davis to be an easy top 5 pick... 2 years of bad-luck and everyone thinks the talent has left the building
Give the guy a chance, he lost 2011 and then had a terrible 2012 team.
Also, i love miguel mayonset....who i think would wind up taking McKnight/Powells spot in the end
I think Powell has a very low cieling, so i think he can be decent but never going to be great. Mcknight simply can't stay healthy, 1 hit and he is hurt.
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infamous46
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I think Geno will be a very good QB is Bailey is drafted on same team and I think Knile Davis can be a dark horse pick and be very productive if healthy
But I'm not sure if both Devito and Landry both return but it's wishful thinking I would hope they do |
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