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quietjetsket


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickyt31 wrote:
ganggreen1102 wrote:
rickyt31 wrote:
lol I didn't realize that Hill wasn't up there. My bad. We got to keep Hill. To soon to throw him away ( Even tho I'm still pissed about the first pats game drop) .


Its amazing how we had such huge expectations for him Sanchez and Maybin and none of them had come even close to that.


This sad story has been going on the last 40 years.


Not even Parcells and his old Giants company solved this problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick 7: trade down to 13 to acquire a 3rd and 5th

1: Bjoern Werner DE/LB FSU
2: Dallas Thomas OT Tennessee
3: Andre Ellington RB Clemson
3: Larry Warford OG Kentucky
4: Marquess Wilson WR Washington State
5: Tyrann Mathieu CB/S LSU
5: Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech
6: Bruce Taylor MLB Virginia Tech
7: John Wentzel OT Boston College
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpt331 wrote:
Pick 7: trade down to 13 to acquire a 3rd and 5th

1: Jake Mathews OT Texas A&M
2: Ezekiel Ansah DE/LB BYU
3: Andre Ellington RB Clemson
3: Larry Warford OG Kentucky
4: Marquess Wilson WR Washington State
5: Tyrann Mathieu CB/S LSU
5: Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech
6: Bruce Taylor MLB Virginia Tech
7: John Wentzel OT Boston College


Like the positions you addressed but an offensive weapon or a pass rusher in the first round would be better than an OT.
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You lost me at "falling Sammy Watkins" there is no way he falls, unless a sniper kneecaps him during his 40, and Watkins momentum might get him a 4.4 40 anyway.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^Sorry Jamison but I cannot support taking a right tackle with a premium first round draft pick with all our other needs. Austin Howard is not the kryptonite of our team right now.

I know you love the idea of Vick but I really don't think that's the best move for our team. That would be a same old Jets move.


I agree, signing guys/personalities like Vick is what got us into the position we're in right now.
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The DMV is the worst place ever. They are even more unpopular than Manish.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kinda wanna see if we could trade Kyle Wilson and a 4th to Saints to Get Mark Ingram I think he ll be available and I feel he along with an improved Oline would solve our run game for next season
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HC: Jay Gruden
OC: Norv Turner
DC: Kris Richard
GM: Marc Ross

Cuts:
Tim Tebow
Bart Scott
Calvin Pace
Jason Smith
Eric Smith

Long-term Extension
Darrelle Revis

Restructures:
Mark Sanchez
David Harris
Simone Pouha

Trades:
Mark Sanchez and a 7th in 13 & 14 to KC for a 6th

Resignings:
Austin Howard
Matt Slauson
Laron Landry
Dustin Keller
Josh Mauga
Jeff Cumberland
Jason Smith
John Conner
Clyde Gates
Ricky Sapp
Aaron berry

FA:
OG Antoine Caldwell
LB Paul Kruger
FS William Moore
DE Marcus Dixon
QB Brady Quinn
RB Rashad Jennings

Draft pick 8 trade to 12 get a 3 and 5:

1: Dion Jordan LB Oregon
2: Cordarrelle Patterson WR Tennessee
3: Andre Ellington RB Clemson
3: Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse
4: Gable Jackson OG Mississippi State
5: James Hurst OT UNC
5: Devin Taylor LB South Carolina
6: Mike Williams TE Alabama
6: Omar Hunter DE/DT Florida

Depth:

QB: Quinn, McElroy, Nassib (open QB comp)
RB: Jennings, Ellington, Powell, Mcknight
FB: Conner
WR1: Holmes, Kerley, White
WR2: Hill, Patterson, Gates
TE: Keller, Cumberland, Williams
LT: Brick, Smith
LG: Slauson, Jackson
C: Mangold
RG: Caldwell, Ducasse
RT: Howard, Hurst

LE: Coples, Hunter
NT: Pouha, Ellis, Harrison
RE: Wilkerson, Dixon
LOLB: Kruger, Taylor
MLB: Harris, Davis, Mauga, Bellore
ROLB: Jordan, Sapp
CB: Revis, Cro, Wilson , berry, Truant
FS: Moore, Bush
$$: Landry, Allen
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trade #12 for #16 and 3rd Round Pick

Round 1 #16-Chance Warmack OG Alabama

Round 2 #44-Tyler Bray QB Tennessee

Round 3 #76-Jamie Collins OLB Southern Miss.

Round 3 #80-Eddie Lacy RB Alabama

Round 4 #108-Arron Dobson WR Marshall

Round 5 #140-Kevin Riddick ILB North Carolina

Round 6 #172-Shamarko Thomas S Syracuse

Round 7 #204-Larry Webster DE Bloomsburg
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moham-17 wrote:
skrILL wrote:
^Sorry Jamison but I cannot support taking a right tackle with a premium first round draft pick with all our other needs. Austin Howard is not the kryptonite of our team right now.

I know you love the idea of Vick but I really don't think that's the best move for our team. That would be a same old Jets move.


I agree, signing guys/personalities like Vick is what got us into the position we're in right now.
When has Vick's personality been anywhere near a Holmes/Edwards/Cromartie/LT/JT level since he got out of prison? He's completely changed and has been nothing but a saint with the Eagles.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpt331 wrote:
I kinda wanna see if we could trade Kyle Wilson and a 4th to Saints to Get Mark Ingram I think he ll be available and I feel he along with an improved Oline would solve our run game for next season
I'd pass on that. Ingram is nothing special and probably holds more value to the Saints than his actual value. Not to mention he's not the back we're looking for.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpt - if we go into the season with Quinn and Jennings as starters, I would probably not watch the Jets for at least a year.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gtek - I really like that draft. Warmack is a great pick and Bray can sit behind Sanchez for 1 year. Collins is good but he's old, I don't like that. Lacy is a tad too high but I like the Thomas pick.
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I have a feeling that we end up drafting in a similar position that we were in last year (somewhere between 10-1Cool which could end up being a blessing in disguise.

In a year that lacks a definitive top-tier, teams such as Kansas City and Arizona will probably reach on the QBs. Though I believe both Geno and Matt Barkley [Mark Sanchez] will be good NFL QBs (especially Barkley in Arizona because they're loaded with talent), they aren't top rated prospects. There are also a number of teams who will be forced to take OTs (a need I do not believe is a big need for the Jets) which could result in the skill position players and pass rushers falling down the board a bit.


Guys I really like as "fits" for the Jets that I expect to be available (this excludes guys like Moore, Jones, Te'o)

1. Chase Warmack
2. Bjoern Werner
3. Barkevious Mingo
4. Giovani Bernard
5. Dion Jordan
6. Keenan Allen
7. Sam Montgomery
8. Ezekiel Ansah
9. Cordarrelle Patterson
10. Anthony Barr

These are subject to change, but I have reasons why I have these players ranked in this order. Chase and Bjoern are likely top 10 picks.

As for Barkevious Mingo: I know he had an off year but the kid is insanely gifted. He has a relentless motor - sometimes too relentless - which results in over pursuit. I'm not concerned; he'll be a stud in the NFL. He's my favorite pass rusher since Aldon Smith. I have Sam Montgomery slightly down on my list because after watching tape, you can tell how much faster/quicker Mingo is and many times protection is shifted toward him which helps out Montgomery. He can be an elite level LB because he's good in every facet of the game, but I don't see him being the pass rusher Mingo will be.

If all those guys were gone, I'd go Giovani Bernard. He's going to be a player in the NFL... if the Jets can't land a guy in FA, he's the guy. He doesn't have elite size, but that's becoming less and less an issue in the NFL. He's a compact runner with a low center of gravity along the lines of Ray Rice, Doug Martin, Frank Gore, etc. He's fast, but he beats defenders with his quickness as a multi-cut runner and is a phenomenal receiver out of the backfield. After seeing the success of Martin and Rice (whom Bernard is a clone of), he should be a highly regarded prospect if he declares early.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how well Montgomery will fit in a 3-4. I don't think Bernard should go that early. I love Barr.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chance Warmack, Terrance Williams, Bjoern Woerner, Damontre Moore. Any of those guys at number 1 and i am happy.

Bray is our second rounder though
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1. Chance Warmack
2. Keenan Allen
3. Cordarrelle Patterson
4. Sam Montgomery
5. Dion Jordan
6. Bjorn Werner
7. Barkevious Mingo
8. Anthony Barr
9. Giovani Bernard
10. Ezekiel Ansah


Pretty much my revised rankings.
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