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jpt331


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickyt31 wrote:
JPT331 , you really want us to switch to a 4-3 huh? lol


Lol gus would line us up as a base 43 but hed bring the LEO defense over so wed have plenty 34 looks thrown in......but yea I love the 43 lol
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bzane wrote:
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I hope we land a Home run hitter at runningback by trade or free agency somehow. Other than that man we need a pass rusher and help on the O-Line

And obviously the Elephant in the room the QB ... honestly have no idea where we get a QB to step in immediately. Alex Smith is gonna be no better than Mark without talent around him. I have no confidence in the NFL potential of ANY QB in this draft noone screams franchise QB to me. We could try to pick up a backup from someone, but I doubt we find a surefire starter anywhere...


JaMarcus Russell is still available!


Could anyone imagine the Media Circus if we were to bring him in here?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coaches/Mgmt.
FIre Sparano, replace him with Norv Turner
Fire Tannenbaum, replace him with Tom Gamble from the Niners

Free Agency
Cuts-Pace, Scott, E. Smith, Pouha, J. Smith
Walk-Let Keller, Greene, Landry, Schilens, Hilliard, Slauson. Would love to bring back Landry, but he will command too much money.
Re-Signings: Y. Bell, I. Trufant, Cumberland, A. Howard, Folk, Mauga, B. Moore, Devito, B. Thomas, Edwards. Bell, Moore, Braylon, and Thomas should all get 1 year deals.
Signings:
QB-Matt Moore (Compete at QB)
TE-Anthony Fasano
T-Will Beatty (Compete with Howard, should be cheaper than someone like Vollmer)


Trades:
-Tebow to Jax for there 6th Round Pick
-Sanchez to Minny for a 5th Round Pick (we agree to eat 80% of Sanchez' contract; not a cap guru but maybe this gets in done)
-Kyle WIlson to Philly for there 4th round pick. The Eagles corners under performed this your and there depth is limited. Kyle adds some young depth.

2013 Draft (This is going on the assumption that we will lose our final game and get the 10th overall pick)
Trade: Trade our 10th pick to Indy for the 20th pick, 2013 3rd and 4th, plus a 2014 3rd. Reason why this works. Indy needs to add a top notch DE/OLB combo to there 3-4, especially with some aging defenders such as Freeney. We can get this trade done because of the disparity between a 10th overall pass rusher in the draft (such as a Dion Jordan or Sam Montgomery) as opposed to a 20th (Ansah from BYU). According to a draft trade value chart, we should be able to yield a 2nd and a 4th in addition to the fourth. However, although there is a disparity, I think there is enough depth that we may not be able to yield the second. This is a way to stockpile some picks as well.

1st (from Indy)- Mike Glennon, QB, NC State- I don't think he'll fall to us in the second and I still believe that Geno will come off the board first. Obviously a big need, he will compete with McElroy and Matt Moore in camp. I think there is enough of a disparity between someone like a Glennon and a Tyler Wilson to be 1st round worthy.

2- Alex Okafor, DE, Texas-Should be able to easily transition into a 3-4 OLB. Very versatile and solid pass-rush skills. Will he be as effective as someone like a Dion Jordan? Probably not, but I'll sacrifice that for the better QB.

3-Tony Jefferson, FS, Oklahoma-Again, I think Landry's price is going to be too steep. We need to look forward and it's hard to say if Josh Bush will be able to step into Landry's shoes. Tony is a solid safety who can cover and could be a solid pick for us.

3 (from Indy)- Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon-Top end speed and a ton of potential. Yes, he's raw, but could develop into a solid complementary back for Bilal. Very good out of the backfield as well. Similar game to Reggie Bush in my opinion.

4 (from Philly)-Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State-Another strong pass rusher who can transition into a 3-4 OLB. Is not polished and will need time to develop, but will be behind Thomas on the depth chart and can earn a chance to start next year.

4-Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M-A sure-handed WR who will add much needed depth to the Jets roster.

4 (from Indy)- Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State. A big TE who's fast and could be the dynamic receiving TE that we've needed on this team.

5-Brian Winters, G, Kent State-Adds much needed depth. Very good in both the running and passing game and could surpass Ducasse in camp as the starting LG.

5 (from Minny)-Zach Line, FB, SMU-We need a solid FB and Zach is one of the best in the draft. Strong blocking skills, but he's sub 4.6 speed could make him an excellent weapon as well.

6 (from Jax)-Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma-Depth

6-Marcus Lattimore, RB, SC-Why not?

7-Ryan Lacy, CB, Utah-Depth


Depth:
QB: Glennon, Moore, McElroy
RB: Powell, Barner, McKnight, Lattimore
FB: Line
WR: Holmes, Edwards, Kerley, Hill, Swope
TE: Sims, Fasano, Cumberland
LT: Ferguson, L. Johnson
LG: Winters, Ducasse
C: Mangold
RG: B. Moore
RT: Beatty, Howard

LE: Coples, Devito
NT: Ellis, Harrison
RE: Wilkerson
LOLB: B. Thomas, Carradine
MLB: Harris, Mauga
MLB: Davis
ROLB: Okafor, McIntyre
CB: Revis, Cromartie , Berry, Walls, Trufant, Lacy
FS: Jefferson, Bush
SS: Bell, Allen

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Trade down into 20s and pick up an extra 2nd and 4th
-Trade up for 5th inexchange for 6th, 7th and 2014 7th

1.Barkevious Mingo OLB
2.Jon Cooper OG
2.Cordelle Patterson WR
3.Joseph Randle RB
4.Tank Carridine OLB
4.Tyler Bray QB
5.Tyrann Matheiu CB
5.Jon Bostic ILB
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpt331 i like your thoughts... You are the only one that agrees with me that Mike Gillislee is a gamer... Luv his game and he has alot of Emmitt Smith in him... He will be a game changer...I hope the new Jets brass is paying attention...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GothamGreen70 wrote:
jpt331 i like your thoughts... You are the only one that agrees with me that Mike Gillislee is a gamer... Luv his game and he has alot of Emmitt Smith in him... He will be a game changer...I hope the new Jets brass is paying attention...


I've been on the gillislee bandwagon for awhile now. About a month ago I said he's easily the best back in this draft. I still stand by that
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the mockers...LaRon Landry is probably playing his last game in a Jets uniform. Dustin Keller might be too unless we decide we want to tag and pay too much money.

Other than that lets hope the overpaid vets are cut and Mike DeVito is retained.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetsfan4life51 wrote:
For the mockers...LaRon Landry is probably playing his last game in a Jets uniform. Dustin Keller might be too unless we decide we want to tag and pay too much money.

Other than that lets hope the overpaid vets are cut and Mike DeVito is retained.

The TE franchise tag is only $5.96M.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been fooling around with ideas.

Trade back for a 2nd and 4th.

1. Chance Warmack

Trade both 2nds to get back into the 1st

1. Barkevious Mingo

3. Joseph Randle

4. Steadman Bailey

5. Michael Williams

6. Bruce Taylor

7. Mister Cobble
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetsfan4life51 wrote:
Been fooling around with ideas.

Trade back for a 2nd and 4th.

1. Chance Warmack

Trade both 2nds to get back into the 1st

1. Barkevious Mingo

3. Joseph Randle

4. Steadman Bailey

5. Michael Williams

6. Bruce Taylor

7. Mister Cobble

We can't trade back and get Chance. I'm just hoping he makes it to our pick.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
jetsfan4life51 wrote:
Been fooling around with ideas.

Trade back for a 2nd and 4th.

1. Chance Warmack

Trade both 2nds to get back into the 1st

1. Barkevious Mingo

3. Joseph Randle

4. Steadman Bailey

5. Michael Williams

6. Bruce Taylor

7. Mister Cobble

We can't trade back and get Chance. I'm just hoping he makes it to our pick.


Chance isn't going top 10. I don't know what the order will be but highest will be top 14.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetsfan4life51 wrote:
green24 wrote:
jetsfan4life51 wrote:
Been fooling around with ideas.

Trade back for a 2nd and 4th.

1. Chance Warmack

Trade both 2nds to get back into the 1st

1. Barkevious Mingo

3. Joseph Randle

4. Steadman Bailey

5. Michael Williams

6. Bruce Taylor

7. Mister Cobble

We can't trade back and get Chance. I'm just hoping he makes it to our pick.


Chance isn't going top 10. I don't know what the order will be but highest will be top 14.

Tennessee might take him.

If we're trading back, it will probably be Cooper instead.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guards don't go top 10. Tennessee can take a DL 1st round.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
jetsfan4life51 wrote:
green24 wrote:
jetsfan4life51 wrote:
Been fooling around with ideas.

Trade back for a 2nd and 4th.

1. Chance Warmack

Trade both 2nds to get back into the 1st

1. Barkevious Mingo

3. Joseph Randle

4. Steadman Bailey

5. Michael Williams

6. Bruce Taylor

7. Mister Cobble

We can't trade back and get Chance. I'm just hoping he makes it to our pick.


Chance isn't going top 10. I don't know what the order will be but highest will be top 14.

Tennessee might take him.

If we're trading back, it will probably be Cooper instead.


The earliest a guard has been taken since 2000 was 15th and in most years the first guard is taken after the 25th pick. No way we should be looking at a guard before the 2nd round. There is still a ton of value later in the draft.
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Care to offer some sort of insight instead of just being obnoxious? Rolling Eyes
I don't.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GM: Mike Maccagnan
HC/DC: Mike Zimmer
OC: Pat Shurmur

Cuts:
Calvin Pace
Bart Scott
Tim Tebow
Sione Pouha
Jason Smith
Eric Smith

Restructures:
Mark Sanchez
David Harris
Brick

Trades:
Mark Sanchez 6th and 7th to KC for a 2014 conditional pick
Kyle Wilson and a 5th to Tampa for a 3rd

Resign:
Dustin Keller
Yerimaih Bell
Austin Howard
Mike DeVito
Braylon Edwards
Aaron Berry
Jason Smith

FA:
OG Louis Vasquez
OG Ramon Foster
LB Leroy Hill
QB Matt Moore

Draft: Pick 12
Trade down from 12 to 22 for a 2nd and 5th

1: Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
2: Eddie Lacy RB Alabama
2: Margus Hunt DE SMU
3: DJ $wearinger FS South Carolina
3: Tank Carradine DE FSU
4: Steadman Bailey WR West Virginia
5: Travis Bond OG UNC

UDFA:
LB Steve Beauharnais Rutgers
FB Braden Wilson Kansas State
DE John Youboty Temple

Depth:

QB: Moore, Wilson, McElroy(Open Competition)
RB: Lacy, Powell, McKnight
FB: Wilson
WR: Holmes, Edwards, Kerley, Hill, Bailey
TE: Keller, Cumberland, Rueland
LT: Furgeson, Smith
LG: Foster, Ducasse
C: Mangold
RG: Vasquez, Bond
RT: Howard, Smith

LE: Coples, Youboty
NT: Ellis, Harrison
DT: Wilkerson, DeVito
RE: Hunt, Carradine
LOLB: Davis, Bellore
MLB: Harris, Mauga, Beauharnais
ROLB: Hill, McIntyre
CB: Revis, Cromartie, Berry, Walls, Trufant
SS: Bell, Allen
FS: $wearinger, Bush
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