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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hue was brilliant.


So brilliant he's coaching DB's in Cincy right?

8-8 is meaningless. Even w/ Hue the team was going to get worse before it got better until the defense was addressed.

Also, I love how many forget that Jackson's offense would struggle in the red zone and 2nd half. Many chances to put games away and they couldn't get it done.

How are people forgetting this?


In his 2nd season, it's hard to fault him too much when Palmer was coming in mid-season and Bush started wearing down. And it was the defense that couldn't put games away.


The offense couldn't score late in games and often struggled in the red zone. If we are going to praise his offense, let''s not be blind to it's short comings.

The defense sucked, but the offense had chances to put the foot on teams throats and they didn't respond.


Yeah, but I gave reasons as to why that might have been. Palmer said he knew something like barely half of the playbook by the time the season was over, so he was learning on the go. McFadden lead the league in rushing before going down too, so I'm sure he would have helped.


So they can score in the first half and not the second? So because of Palmer's unfamiliarity w/ the offense they were only good for 2 quarters? Seems legit.


To be honest, I don't remember when the offense was scoring there points. I just think Palmer having a full grasp of the offense and playbook would have helped out in the redzone.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he got the most out of our play makers.. dmc was average until he got there..
dmc and ford were out half the year.
moore was a rookie.
palmer came in half season.
no defense.
turned our fb into a go to guy.
found ways to get everyone involved.

i think he was an ok head coach.. if all he had to do was focus on offense he would be genius.

gruden head coach
hue ocordinator
allen d coordinator? haha jk
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
wizardg wrote:


Hue was brilliant.


So brilliant he's coaching DB's in Cincy right?

8-8 is meaningless. Even w/ Hue the team was going to get worse before it got better until the defense was addressed.

Also, I love how many forget that Jackson's offense would struggle in the red zone and 2nd half. Many chances to put games away and they couldn't get it done.

How are people forgetting this?


In his 2nd season, it's hard to fault him too much when Palmer was coming in mid-season and Bush started wearing down. And it was the defense that couldn't put games away.




You'd think he would have went to Reece a lot more than. Amazing how under utilised he was by Hue.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
Darkness wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
wizardg wrote:


Hue was brilliant.


So brilliant he's coaching DB's in Cincy right?

8-8 is meaningless. Even w/ Hue the team was going to get worse before it got better until the defense was addressed.

Also, I love how many forget that Jackson's offense would struggle in the red zone and 2nd half. Many chances to put games away and they couldn't get it done.

How are people forgetting this?


In his 2nd season, it's hard to fault him too much when Palmer was coming in mid-season and Bush started wearing down. And it was the defense that couldn't put games away.




You'd think he would have went to Reece a lot more than. Amazing how under utilised he was by Hue.


I agree. Probably would have happened this season too if not for injuries. Not sure why.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
Darkness wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
wizardg wrote:


Hue was brilliant.


So brilliant he's coaching DB's in Cincy right?

8-8 is meaningless. Even w/ Hue the team was going to get worse before it got better until the defense was addressed.

Also, I love how many forget that Jackson's offense would struggle in the red zone and 2nd half. Many chances to put games away and they couldn't get it done.

How are people forgetting this?


In his 2nd season, it's hard to fault him too much when Palmer was coming in mid-season and Bush started wearing down. And it was the defense that couldn't put games away.




You'd think he would have went to Reece a lot more than. Amazing how under utilised he was by Hue.


This. Or you know. Sign a street FA to spell some carries.

The RB position was mis-managed all last season. Eventually Hue believed his own BS about McFadden coming back. Laughing
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Ahhh, yes. Nothing like the new girlfriend frigging up to make one pine for a love lost . . . .


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Ahhh, yes. Nothing like the new girlfriend frigging up to make one pine for a love lost . . . .




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Also, I love how many forget that Jackson's offense would struggle in the red zone and 2nd half. Many chances to put games away and they couldn't get it done.

How are people forgetting this?


It's very easy to forget when you read all the excuses you and others quickly bring up for Dennis Allen.
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It's mind boggling when people are quick to bash Hue, yet make excuses as to why DA deserves another year. Honestly, the logic behind it (or lack thereof) is flawed.

I'm not saying DA should be fired, but come on. He hasn't really been impressive either, talent or no talent. This team seems lost & no one seems to care. They have regressed each passing week. What does that tell you?
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It's mind boggling when people are quick to bash Hue, yet make excuses as to why DA deserves another year. Honestly, the logic behind it (or lack thereof) is flawed.

I'm not saying DA should be fired, but come on. He hasn't really been impressive either, talent or no talent. This team seems lost & no one seems to care. They have regressed each passing week. What does that tell you?



Don't throw your team under the boss and then demand a say in the personnel decisions after you've made arguable one of the worst trades in this franchises history.
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It's mind boggling when people are quick to bash Hue, yet make excuses as to why DA deserves another year. Honestly, the logic behind it (or lack thereof) is flawed.

I'm not saying DA should be fired, but come on. He hasn't really been impressive either, talent or no talent. This team seems lost & no one seems to care. They have regressed each passing week. What does that tell you?



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Professor Oak wrote:
It's mind boggling when people are quick to bash Hue, yet make excuses as to why DA deserves another year. Honestly, the logic behind it (or lack thereof) is flawed.

I'm not saying DA should be fired, but come on. He hasn't really been impressive either, talent or no talent. This team seems lost & no one seems to care. They have regressed each passing week. What does that tell you?



Don't throw your team under the boss and then demand a say in the personnel decisions after you've made arguable one of the worst trades in this franchises history.

Negative.

I'm speaking in regards to the current staff, not Hue.

All I'm saying is that people shouldn't give DA a "pass" just because he doesn't have talent. This is the NFL. I'm willing to give him another year, but the fact that the team is regressing each week is worrisome, and tells me it's beyond lack of talent.
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Also, I love how many forget that Jackson's offense would struggle in the red zone and 2nd half. Many chances to put games away and they couldn't get it done.

How are people forgetting this?


It's very easy to forget when you read all the excuses you and others quickly bring up for Dennis Allen.


Or maybe some of us realize he will be the coach next season with 100% certainty and we are trying to find positives and understand the talent is hot garbage. But I was saying that last year.
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Professor Oak wrote:
It's mind boggling when people are quick to bash Hue, yet make excuses as to why DA deserves another year. Honestly, the logic behind it (or lack thereof) is flawed.

I'm not saying DA should be fired, but come on. He hasn't really been impressive either, talent or no talent. This team seems lost & no one seems to care. They have regressed each passing week. What does that tell you?


We are not saying DA deserves another year. We are saying its irrelevant to suggest he won't be the coach.

Why discuss something that's not happening?
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