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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YlionsY wrote:
Just for the record I do not hate Green.


Then I just don't understand your assessment that he hasn't played well. Can you explain it to me? Perhaps my eyes are blinded by AAL love.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With Bentley going on IR, yeah, why not? Ideally they ought to see if he clears waivers and see if they can just get him signed to a veteran minimum deal, but they still need bodies back there. It's not even an indictment on Green or Alphonso Smith if they pick him up--they just need bodies, and I don't see how Routt is any worse than the guys we have.


Florence can be activated next week, Greenwood either will be activated or put on IR this week. We will be ok. Routt just hasn't been good, ever really. He had moments but he is the Alphonso Smith type that QBs gameplan towards.

Chiefs fans seem pretty confused by his release, despite his big paycheck he's due for. I think he's always been an above average corner. Psychically he's pretty much a prototype (obviously, being an Al Davis pick) and can match up with pretty much everyone. I think you're right with he has some Smith like tendencies but his talents can take him a lot further than Smith's. For a veteran minimum type deal why not bring in another healthy body?


I kinda doubt he makes it past the waiver process, several teams out there have injuries in the secondary that he could help ease.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nnivolcm wrote:
YlionsY wrote:
Just for the record I do not hate Green.


Then I just don't understand your assessment that he hasn't played well. Can you explain it to me? Perhaps my eyes are blinded by AAL love.
He was saying he wasn't playing great, he wasn't calling him bad.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nnivolcm wrote:
YlionsY wrote:
Just for the record I do not hate Green.


Then I just don't understand your assessment that he hasn't played well. Can you explain it to me? Perhaps my eyes are blinded by AAL love.


I think he has played much better than I thought he would and has seen much improvement since earlier in the pre-season/season.

I think he did well last game and I'm happy with what we have in him. However, he is a rookie and I would rather bring on a veteran who is average to above average at minimal cost. This would allow us to bring on Green slower than what he has been thrown into.

I would like to sign him but if we wait until Florence is back I'm okay with that too. I would rather have a reliable veteran to bring on Green slowly or at least have a decent backup if Green regresses or really starts to struggle.

I could be wrong and I guess it doesn't really make sense to "bring him on slowly" if we threw him in and he is doing better each week but I would be happy if we brought Routt.

I will gladly eat crow though if we pass on Routt and stick with Green and he continues to improve and impress. I would just be more comfortable with a healthy body besides Lacey as a backup.
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IDOG_det wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
YlionsY wrote:
Just for the record I do not hate Green.


Then I just don't understand your assessment that he hasn't played well. Can you explain it to me? Perhaps my eyes are blinded by AAL love.
He was saying he wasn't playing great, he wasn't calling him bad.


Basically ya. I'm on the fence. I don't want to get my hopes up. Green hasn't been lights out but he hasn't been god awful either. I like that he is improving.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YlionsY wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
YlionsY wrote:
Just for the record I do not hate Green.


Then I just don't understand your assessment that he hasn't played well. Can you explain it to me? Perhaps my eyes are blinded by AAL love.


I think he has played much better than I thought he would and has seen much improvement since earlier in the pre-season/season.

I think he did well last game and I'm happy with what we have in him. However, he is a rookie and I would rather bring on a veteran who is average to above average at minimal cost. This would allow us to bring on Green slower than what he has been thrown into.

I would like to sign him but if we wait until Florence is back I'm okay with that too. I would rather have a reliable veteran to bring on Green slowly or at least have a decent backup if Green regresses or really starts to struggle.

I could be wrong and I guess it doesn't really make sense to "bring him on slowly" if we threw him in and he is doing better each week but I would be happy if we brought Routt.

I will gladly eat crow though if we pass on Routt and stick with Green and he continues to improve and impress. I would just be more comfortable with a healthy body besides Lacey as a backup.


Ok I get it now, I thought you meant something different when you wrote:
YlionsY wrote:
I don't think Green has been good.


But it's perfectly reasonable to think the way you explained it out. I don't want to crown Green a future HoFer or even ignore the CB position in the off season because of him either, I just want people to get over their biases from the pre season and judge him for what he has done in games that matter.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Green has started, he's dine everything you'd ask for in a number 2 CB. Shoot, I think he's almost outplayed Houston who I love and want as our number 1 guy long term.

With that said, I'd still bring in Routt who only has a 1.2M dollar salary this year that we'd only be responsible for half of. And although our pass rush isn't making any goos plays, it's been good enough to help our our secondary. Florence, Routt and Houston should give this secondary plenty of experience to where we're not totally miserable at times.
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No doubt they could use some help. Not sure he is it but they have brought in worse to see what they have had left.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disgruntled CB in aisle 4. Why not, I love those 10 for 10 sales at Krogers.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stylish, just a question: what dp you suggest we do?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsFTW wrote:
Stylish, just a question: what dp you suggest we do?
Prioritize.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LionsFTW wrote:
Stylish, just a question: what dp you suggest we do?
Prioritize.


Ok. Whaty would you have done?

You're starting to sound like Go_Lions.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsFTW wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
Stylish, just a question: what dp you suggest we do?
Prioritize.


Ok. Whaty would you have done?

You're starting to sound like Go_Lions.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsFTW wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
Stylish, just a question: what dp you suggest we do?
Prioritize.


Ok. Whaty would you have done?

You're starting to sound like Go_Lions.
Why, because I won't conform to the apologist attitudes of this lemming-ized forum?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
stylish313 wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
Stylish, just a question: what dp you suggest we do?
Prioritize.


Ok. Whaty would you have done?

You're starting to sound like Go_Lions.
Why, because I won't conform to the apologist attitudes of this lemming-ized forum?


What.would.you.have.done.differently?
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