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SouthwestSteel
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 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:02 am Post subject: Judge-Ground attack making Steelers the threat |
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| Quote: | Now the Steelers are beginning to close out opponents with the run, and their latest conquest is the evidence. Pittsburgh had the ball 10-and-a-half minutes more than its opponent -- a team that wants to run, too, but couldn't Sunday -- and it had it for 21 more plays, an advantage that played into the outcome.
"When everybody gets healthy," promised Redman, "we're going to be a team that is going to be reckoned with. With all three of us, who knows what we'll be?"
It's a good question. We just saw what happened when the Steelers were reduced to just one of them, and it was good enough to beat one of the league's most formidable opponents -- under, as I mentioned, adverse circumstances ... which, of course, is why you should start to pay attention to these guys. |
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/20827529/ground-attack-making-steelers-the-threat-we-all-thought-theyd-be |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:07 am Post subject: |
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It all starts up front.
The only thing Im getting a bit annoyed with is the fact that our running game is now clicking, yet we arent taking any shots downfield really. We did once yesterday on the play Antonio Brown got hurt, but that was a pointless attempt that was more just throwing the ball away.
Yesterday...I understood because the Giants have beast pass rushers and Adams is still adjusting....but while I do like what Haley has done for the most part, I would like us to take some more shots downfield. We only have Wallace for 8 more games most likely....we should get as much use out of him as we can.
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waffles7
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | It all starts up front.
The only thing Im getting a bit annoyed with is the fact that our running game is now clicking, yet we arent taking any shots downfield really. We did once yesterday on the play Antonio Brown got hurt, but that was a pointless attempt that was more just throwing the ball away.
Yesterday...I understood because the Giants have beast pass rushers and Adams is still adjusting....but while I do like what Haley has done for the most part, I would like us to take some more shots downfield. We only have Wallace for 8 more games most likely....we should get as much use out of him as we can. |
Lets hope we have him for 11 more  lol
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jebrick
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: |
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According to an interview with Charlie Batch recently, their opponents are ALWAYS rotating a safety to Wallace. the threat of Wallace is more likely to keep the safeties back and help the running game.
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SouthwestSteel
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:22 am Post subject: |
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This is another very good article, some really nice quotes here:
| Quote: | "I feel like this is possibly the best win that we've had since I've been on this team, just because we overcame so much,'' said Steelers receiver Mike Wallace, a member of the 2010 AFC champion Steelers. "We had a lot of adversity to overcome today, but everybody stayed together. Everybody stayed positive and we won the game.''
"With Isaac, he's very quick side to side, with his agility,'' Steelers veteran left tackle Max Starks said. "He makes a decision and he's a one-cut runner. He's not dancing. He makes that decision and he just goes straight ahead, and you can either get on the train tracks or you can get out of the way. I think most people know if you get on the train tracks, you don't really win that much.''
Redman repeatedly made yards after first contact with Giants defenders, spinning off tacklers, bouncing out of closed holes and making the most of his opportunity -- and his second opportunities on nearly every run.
"It felt kind of weird, coming the day of [the game], but any obstacle that comes in our way, we just push it aside and come to work,'' Redman said. "We knew the Giants were dealing with their own adversity, so we couldn't feel bad for ourselves. We just came out here ready to play. When you're a Steeler, that's what it's about. It's about never giving up, regardless of how we started off the season. Coach Tomlin said, 'This game is the fork in the road, which way do we want to go?' We're in the right direction.''
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Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/11/04/steelers-giants/index.html#ixzz2BMUrTD5n
Another telling quote from Wallace I saw elsewhere:
"I love this team,'' said Wallace. "We're fighters. This win says we're rolling now." |
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The Steelers offensively are becoming more and more comfortable in the Haley offense. I think the big plays are coming, but Brown has to be able to beat coverage deep some times to keep the safeties from rolling to Wallace all the time. Teams are content with letting Wallace run the short intermediate stuff and the more Wallace adjustment to make those long gains like yesterday he'll also help his own cause.
But the crazy thing is that the OL is sustaining blocks moving people off the line. Since Adams has been the starter the running game has improved.
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[quote="Dook"] | SteelProven wrote: | The Steelers offensively are becoming more and more comfortable in the Haley offense. I think the big plays are coming, but Brown has to be able to beat coverage deep some times to keep the safeties from rolling to Wallace all the time. Teams are content with letting Wallace run the short intermediate stuff and the more Wallace adjustment to make those long gains like yesterday he'll also help his own cause.
But the crazy thing is that the OL is sustaining blocks moving people off the line. Since Adams has been the starter the running game has improved. |
It's not just Adams side their running to, it's Willie Colon's also. |
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[quote="Dook"] | Dook wrote: | | SteelProven wrote: | The Steelers offensively are becoming more and more comfortable in the Haley offense. I think the big plays are coming, but Brown has to be able to beat coverage deep some times to keep the safeties from rolling to Wallace all the time. Teams are content with letting Wallace run the short intermediate stuff and the more Wallace adjustment to make those long gains like yesterday he'll also help his own cause.
But the crazy thing is that the OL is sustaining blocks moving people off the line. Since Adams has been the starter the running game has improved. |
It's not just Adams side their running to, it's Willie Colon's also. |
I dont think anyone will deny Colon and even Pouncey are playing better, but Adams is very clearly a superior run blocker to Gilbert.
And Adams pass blocking is gradually improving. Im really liking what Im seeing there in terms of his development.
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"I love this team,'' said Wallace. "We're fighters. This win says we're rolling now." |
Still nothing I would love to see more next offseason than for the Steelers to work out a reasonable contract with this guy.
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jebrick
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Adams has a mean streak and Gilbert does not. It is the same reason Starks lost the RT position.
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[quote="FourThreeMafia"] | Dook wrote: | | Dook wrote: | | SteelProven wrote: | The Steelers offensively are becoming more and more comfortable in the Haley offense. I think the big plays are coming, but Brown has to be able to beat coverage deep some times to keep the safeties from rolling to Wallace all the time. Teams are content with letting Wallace run the short intermediate stuff and the more Wallace adjustment to make those long gains like yesterday he'll also help his own cause.
But the crazy thing is that the OL is sustaining blocks moving people off the line. Since Adams has been the starter the running game has improved. |
It's not just Adams side their running to, it's Willie Colon's also. |
I dont think anyone will deny Colon and even Pouncey are playing better, but Adams is very clearly a superior run blocker to Gilbert.
And Adams pass blocking is gradually improving. Im really liking what Im seeing there in terms of his development. |
Exactly Adams play has been anything short of amazing especially with how the team is playing and the runs they have got to his side of the field.
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[quote="SteelProven"] | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Dook wrote: | | Dook wrote: | | SteelProven wrote: | The Steelers offensively are becoming more and more comfortable in the Haley offense. I think the big plays are coming, but Brown has to be able to beat coverage deep some times to keep the safeties from rolling to Wallace all the time. Teams are content with letting Wallace run the short intermediate stuff and the more Wallace adjustment to make those long gains like yesterday he'll also help his own cause.
But the crazy thing is that the OL is sustaining blocks moving people off the line. Since Adams has been the starter the running game has improved. |
It's not just Adams side their running to, it's Willie Colon's also. |
I dont think anyone will deny Colon and even Pouncey are playing better, but Adams is very clearly a superior run blocker to Gilbert.
And Adams pass blocking is gradually improving. Im really liking what Im seeing there in terms of his development. |
Exactly Adams play has been anything short of amazing especially with how the team is playing and the runs they have got to his side of the field. |
They got the player I wanted in the draft (Adams) but it took a while to get him on the field. Now it is working out really well and I just hope they keep running the ball like this. Foster has been playing well too. I actually think this OL looks like they want to run the ball now as well, seems like they like pushing the opposition around more than picking up their qb This looks right now  |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Dook wrote: | | Dook wrote: | The Steelers offensively are becoming more and more comfortable in the Haley offense. I think the big plays are coming, but Brown has to be able to beat coverage deep some times to keep the safeties from rolling to Wallace all the time. Teams are content with letting Wallace run the short intermediate stuff and the more Wallace adjustment to make those long gains like yesterday he'll also help his own cause.
But the crazy thing is that the OL is sustaining blocks moving people off the line. Since Adams has been the starter the running game has improved. |
It's not just Adams side their running to, it's Willie Colon's also. |
I dont think anyone will deny Colon and even Pouncey are playing better, but Adams is very clearly a superior run blocker to Gilbert.
And Adams pass blocking is gradually improving. Im really liking what Im seeing there in terms of his development. |
i agree. I like what I'm seeing in this OL. It's developed into a solid unit. I think the steelers have found solid players to build around for the future in Pouncey, DeCastro, Adams and Gilbert.
No doubt Decastro needs to get healthy and prov himself. Adams and Gilbert till have developing to do as well, but it's clear to me the future is finally bright for the OL.
I like what I've been seeing out of Colon lately also. The move to guard is panning out for him.
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turtle28
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| Bobikus wrote: | | SouthwestSteel wrote: |
"I love this team,'' said Wallace. "We're fighters. This win says we're rolling now." |
Still nothing I would love to see more next offseason than for the Steelers to work out a reasonable contract with this guy. |
I totally agree. I think they can get something done.
Anyone know how much cap space the steelers have in 2013?
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