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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyHarry wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Good - Palmer Streater Myers Reece

Bad - run defense, pass blocking Palmers throw at 35-32. DMC injured again

Ugly - Willie Smith, missed tackles, lack of rotation at DT, run Offense again.

Bryants absence told on Kelly and Seymour no surprise that the majority of Martins yards came in the 2nd half.

Because we are so poor at CB we have to play our safeties deep to help them in coverage this leaves us short in run defense. By the time Martin is through our front 7 the safety has no chance. Martin had 197 yards before contact which is ridiculous.

We desperately need Bartell and/or Spencer back and move Huff back to FS.

Allen made a mistake not having Bilikuidi active. How many DB's did we have active on Sunday ? Snap counts for Ross, Adams, Francies would be interesting.

So looking back at the 3 big runs.... The 1st one it was Houston and Bryant at DT Bryant was walled off Martin leaves Gio flat footed and branch gets stiff armed lol. Also Tollefson was in at LE. Not a recipe for a stuffed run.

The 2nd one we have branch in the box but it doesn't make a difference wheeler is pushed back into another zip code and lee whiffs badly. Burris and McClain can't disengage in time and poor Gio gets shook and hurt.

The 3rd one Burris and wheeler over pursue badly and mike Mitchell doesn't have a chance to get Martin in the open field. pat lee goes for a punchout and takes branch to the ground as well with him.


thought bryant left in the 2nd qrt and never came back

Nope he's in between shaugnessy and Houston.


That's right Bryant is in and he actually does a good job pushing back his blocker to close the hole. McClain has to make the tackle for no gain on that run. I have no idea what he's doing though. Seems like he tries to hit a lead blocker who wasn't even trying to block him and when he realizes Martin is right next to him, it's already too late. Then Gio gets caught with both feet stuck in the ground in the open field and he lets Martin get to the outside.

On the 2nd run, we're in trouble before the ball is even snapped. The Bucs have 2 TEs on the left side and the FB in an offset I to the left side as well. To counter that we have Wheeler, Branch and Lee on that side. Shaughnessy is at RE and he's lined up on the LT's inside shoulder.
Wheeler is double teamed by the TEs. Branch takes on the lead blocking FB while McClain fills the gap but has to take on the pulling RG. Lee is unblocked and should fill the gap. He doesn't and ends up missing the tackle. Like on the first play, we can stop this run for a short gain if we just make the tackle.

On the 3rd one, we don't have the opportunity to make the tackle near the LOS. Everybody is out of position on the backside.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
Professor Oak wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Considering I don't know what options he had for OC, I won't criticize him. Also, I think Knapp's offense would be better if it had the talent to execute.

To judge a coach after 8 games into his career is just dumb. This is the impatient non-sense Raider fans have been subject to for a decade. So maybe give the guy time to get talent on the roster, instal the schemes accordingly, etc. for a change.

I agree with not judging a coach after an 8 game sample size, but I also believe that it's not fair to call it ignorant. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and quite frankly, fans have every right to place blame on the people who are responsible for the success of their team. Especially after we saw what this offense is capable of.

What's truly ignorant is the fact that Knapp is not maximizing players abilities. It is never supposed to work that way, in any sport. You work with your players' strengths. Yes the players are not blocking, yes they are not making the right throws every time, yes they are not executing correctly, but what it all comes down to is not being put into position to succeed. It all starts from the top.

It's more than just the running back that isn't working under Knapp.


Nothing has ever worked under Knapp. His hiring is the equivalent of the Chiefs making Crennel their full time HC or the Chargers keeping Turner, it yields the same results it always has. Not a lot of success.


You two summed it up perfectly.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
NCOUGHMAN wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
Dessie wrote:
Good - Palmer Streater Myers Reece

Bad - run defense, pass blocking Palmers throw at 35-32. DMC injured again

Ugly - Willie Smith, missed tackles, lack of rotation at DT, run Offense again.

Bryants absence told on Kelly and Seymour no surprise that the majority of Martins yards came in the 2nd half.

Because we are so poor at CB we have to play our safeties deep to help them in coverage this leaves us short in run defense. By the time Martin is through our front 7 the safety has no chance. Martin had 197 yards before contact which is ridiculous.

We desperately need Bartell and/or Spencer back and move Huff back to FS.

Allen made a mistake not having Bilikuidi active. How many DB's did we have active on Sunday ? Snap counts for Ross, Adams, Francies would be interesting.

So looking back at the 3 big runs.... The 1st one it was Houston and Bryant at DT Bryant was walled off Martin leaves Gio flat footed and branch gets stiff armed lol. Also Tollefson was in at LE. Not a recipe for a stuffed run.

The 2nd one we have branch in the box but it doesn't make a difference wheeler is pushed back into another zip code and lee whiffs badly. Burris and McClain can't disengage in time and poor Gio gets shook and hurt.

The 3rd one Burris and wheeler over pursue badly and mike Mitchell doesn't have a chance to get Martin in the open field. pat lee goes for a punchout and takes branch to the ground as well with him.


thought bryant left in the 2nd qrt and never came back

Nope he's in between shaugnessy and Houston.


That's right Bryant is in and he actually does a good job pushing back his blocker to close the hole. McClain has to make the tackle for no gain on that run. I have no idea what he's doing though. Seems like he tries to hit a lead blocker who wasn't even trying to block him and when he realizes Martin is right next to him, it's already too late. Then Gio gets caught with both feet stuck in the ground in the open field and he lets Martin get to the outside.

On the 2nd run, we're in trouble before the ball is even snapped. The Bucs have 2 TEs on the left side and the FB in an offset I to the left side as well. To counter that we have Wheeler, Branch and Lee on that side. Shaughnessy is at RE and he's lined up on the LT's inside shoulder.
Wheeler is double teamed by the TEs. Branch takes on the lead blocking FB while McClain fills the gap but has to take on the pulling RG. Lee is unblocked and should fill the gap. He doesn't and ends up missing the tackle. Like on the first play, we can stop this run for a short gain if we just make the tackle.

On the 3rd one, we don't have the opportunity to make the tackle near the LOS. Everybody is out of position on the backside.



The run defense is bad all year it was just shielded by the opposing teams running backs being hurt.

Keep in mind, the Raiders caught the Chargers without Mathews, the Steelers without Mendenhall, the Jags without Jones-Drew and the Chiefs failed to give the ball to Charles but five times. So, perhaps it's a case of the Raiders run defense just not being that much improved.by scorkran 3:24 PM yesterday
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