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Should Haslam fire Shurmur now?
Yes
52%
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No
45%
 45%  [ 21 ]
Other, and why?
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
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bruceb


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
It won't translate to more wins, but lets be honest its not like keeping him is going to mean more wins either.

I'm not a fan of firing a HC mid season, but I'm less of a fan of keeping a HC in place when everyone knows he is gone. Dead man walking...

It will allow haslam and banner to start the coaching search sooner. NFL teams likely to be looking for a new coach next year include the browns, chiefs, chargers, jets... Maybe even New Orleans with Peyton likely to test the market. It wouldn't hurt to get in front of the line


No, it wont, unless you want to somethign dumb and hand over picks because you tampered with other NFL teams


Sorry genius, but tampering only applies when speaking to other nfl coaches currently under contract.


Yeah so lets go for those fired ones

good call

unless you're talking about the risky jump into NCAA which i think is dumb.


Your proclaimed prowess with numbers obviously doesn't translate to any with words and their meanings.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
It won't translate to more wins, but lets be honest its not like keeping him is going to mean more wins either.

I'm not a fan of firing a HC mid season, but I'm less of a fan of keeping a HC in place when everyone knows he is gone. Dead man walking...

It will allow haslam and banner to start the coaching search sooner. NFL teams likely to be looking for a new coach next year include the browns, chiefs, chargers, jets... Maybe even New Orleans with Peyton likely to test the market. It wouldn't hurt to get in front of the line


No, it wont, unless you want to somethign dumb and hand over picks because you tampered with other NFL teams


Sorry genius, but tampering only applies when speaking to other nfl coaches currently under contract.


Yeah so lets go for those fired ones

good call

unless you're talking about the risky jump into NCAA which i think is dumb.


Very poor reading comprehension....
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruceb is my new favorite person in this forum. Shurmer needs to go.
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mistakebytehlak


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
It won't translate to more wins, but lets be honest its not like keeping him is going to mean more wins either.

I'm not a fan of firing a HC mid season, but I'm less of a fan of keeping a HC in place when everyone knows he is gone. Dead man walking...

It will allow haslam and banner to start the coaching search sooner. NFL teams likely to be looking for a new coach next year include the browns, chiefs, chargers, jets... Maybe even New Orleans with Peyton likely to test the market. It wouldn't hurt to get in front of the line


No, it wont, unless you want to somethign dumb and hand over picks because you tampered with other NFL teams


Sorry genius, but tampering only applies when speaking to other nfl coaches currently under contract.


Yeah so lets go for those fired ones

good call

unless you're talking about the risky jump into NCAA which i think is dumb.


Your proclaimed prowess with numbers obviously doesn't translate to any with words and their meanings.


no i understood it

if not current NFL coaches
he must be talking about
retired/fired former coaches
NCAA coaches
coaches on the browns

doubtful he's talking about the third category, and the first two are pretty dumb too, imo.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
It won't translate to more wins, but lets be honest its not like keeping him is going to mean more wins either.

I'm not a fan of firing a HC mid season, but I'm less of a fan of keeping a HC in place when everyone knows he is gone. Dead man walking...

It will allow haslam and banner to start the coaching search sooner. NFL teams likely to be looking for a new coach next year include the browns, chiefs, chargers, jets... Maybe even New Orleans with Peyton likely to test the market. It wouldn't hurt to get in front of the line


No, it wont, unless you want to somethign dumb and hand over picks because you tampered with other NFL teams


Sorry genius, but tampering only applies when speaking to other nfl coaches currently under contract.


Yeah so lets go for those fired ones

good call

unless you're talking about the risky jump into NCAA which i think is dumb.


Very poor reading comprehension....


yeah not really
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firing him at this point is not going to do anything but create a distraction.... If we fire him all we are going to get is an interim coach. He more than likely will be fired after the season.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
It won't translate to more wins, but lets be honest its not like keeping him is going to mean more wins either.

I'm not a fan of firing a HC mid season, but I'm less of a fan of keeping a HC in place when everyone knows he is gone. Dead man walking...

It will allow haslam and banner to start the coaching search sooner. NFL teams likely to be looking for a new coach next year include the browns, chiefs, chargers, jets... Maybe even New Orleans with Peyton likely to test the market. It wouldn't hurt to get in front of the line


No, it wont, unless you want to somethign dumb and hand over picks because you tampered with other NFL teams


Sorry genius, but tampering only applies when speaking to other nfl coaches currently under contract.


Yeah so lets go for those fired ones

good call

unless you're talking about the risky jump into NCAA which i think is dumb.


Your proclaimed prowess with numbers obviously doesn't translate to any with words and their meanings.


no i understood it

if not current NFL coaches
he must be talking about
retired/fired former coaches
NCAA coaches
coaches on the browns

doubtful he's talking about the third category, and the first two are pretty dumb too, imo.


None of which would be tampering. Try again.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TypicalBrowns10 wrote:
Bruceb is my new favorite person in this forum. Shurmer needs to go.


That has to be a first. Ty!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Firing him at this point is not going to do anything but create a distraction.... If we fire him all we are going to get is an interim coach. He more than likely will be fired after the season.


I dont care when he goes. Get him out of here.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly believe browns fans are not happy unless they are toaking about somebody sucking or claiming somebody needs to lose their job
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
It won't translate to more wins, but lets be honest its not like keeping him is going to mean more wins either.

I'm not a fan of firing a HC mid season, but I'm less of a fan of keeping a HC in place when everyone knows he is gone. Dead man walking...

It will allow haslam and banner to start the coaching search sooner. NFL teams likely to be looking for a new coach next year include the browns, chiefs, chargers, jets... Maybe even New Orleans with Peyton likely to test the market. It wouldn't hurt to get in front of the line


No, it wont, unless you want to somethign dumb and hand over picks because you tampered with other NFL teams


Sorry genius, but tampering only applies when speaking to other nfl coaches currently under contract.


Yeah so lets go for those fired ones

good call

unless you're talking about the risky jump into NCAA which i think is dumb.


Your proclaimed prowess with numbers obviously doesn't translate to any with words and their meanings.


no i understood it

if not current NFL coaches
he must be talking about
retired/fired former coaches
NCAA coaches
coaches on the browns

doubtful he's talking about the third category, and the first two are pretty dumb too, imo.



You apparently have no experince in human resources.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
It won't translate to more wins, but lets be honest its not like keeping him is going to mean more wins either.

I'm not a fan of firing a HC mid season, but I'm less of a fan of keeping a HC in place when everyone knows he is gone. Dead man walking...

It will allow haslam and banner to start the coaching search sooner. NFL teams likely to be looking for a new coach next year include the browns, chiefs, chargers, jets... Maybe even New Orleans with Peyton likely to test the market. It wouldn't hurt to get in front of the line


No, it wont, unless you want to somethign dumb and hand over picks because you tampered with other NFL teams


Sorry genius, but tampering only applies when speaking to other nfl coaches currently under contract.


Yeah so lets go for those fired ones

good call

unless you're talking about the risky jump into NCAA which i think is dumb.


Your proclaimed prowess with numbers obviously doesn't translate to any with words and their meanings.


no i understood it

if not current NFL coaches
he must be talking about
retired/fired former coaches
NCAA coaches
coaches on the browns

doubtful he's talking about the third category, and the first two are pretty dumb too, imo.



So you think that being able to start the process earlier ONLY means interviewing coaches right now? You apparently have no experince in human resources.


you apparently have no insight if you think that joe banner hasn't already started the process
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
I honestly believe browns fans are not happy unless they are toaking about somebody sucking or claiming somebody needs to lose their job


someone's on point
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
which i think is dumb.


While you may hold that opinion, let us keep that kind of response off the boards. Calling an idea or a statement dumb does not contribute or develop the conversation.

If you disagree, just go ahead and describe why. Calling something dumb doesn't add to the discussion, it only derails it.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Please, Jimmy Haslam, fire Shurmur now Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
bruceb wrote:
I have seen all I need to see.

I say get rid of this idiot now.

Bye week is a good time for it...gives the temporary HC time.

How about you?


What would it accomplish?

Would firing Shurmur improve Brad Childress' play calling?
Would it improve our shoddy defense?

All it would do is change the name on the head coaches' parking spot until February.


I thought Pat said he was the one calling the plays?
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