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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Nix: Bills will draft quarterback soon Reply with quote

Buddy Nix: Buffalo Bills will draft quarterback soon

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I don't want to leave here without a franchise guy for the future in place.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well no [inappropriate/removed] !! Glad he realizes this and let's hope he targets the right prospect not reach. I see Geno Smith as the only real "franchise" guy this draft.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well no [inappropriate/removed] !! Glad he realizes this and let's hope he targets the right prospect not reach. I see Tyler Wilson as the only real "franchise" guy this draft.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trentwannabe wrote:
BillsGuy82 wrote:
Well no [inappropriate/removed] !! Glad he realizes this and let's hope he targets the right prospect not reach. I see Tyler Wilson as the only real "franchise" guy this draft.


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Considering he's the only real Franchise type guy we have a shot at, I'd agree.

If someone is about to take him and we don't have the pick, trade up?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thelonebillsfan wrote:
Trentwannabe wrote:
BillsGuy82 wrote:
Well no [inappropriate/removed] !! Glad he realizes this and let's hope he targets the right prospect not reach. I see Tyler Wilson as the only real "franchise" guy this draft.


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Considering he's the only real Franchise type guy we have a shot at, I'd agree.

If someone is about to take him and we don't have the pick, trade up?
I want Tyler Bray. Potential is through the roof and Nix does love those Tennesse boys.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marshawn lynch wrote:
Thelonebillsfan wrote:
Trentwannabe wrote:
BillsGuy82 wrote:
Well no [inappropriate/removed] !! Glad he realizes this and let's hope he targets the right prospect not reach. I see Tyler Wilson as the only real "franchise" guy this draft.


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Considering he's the only real Franchise type guy we have a shot at, I'd agree.

If someone is about to take him and we don't have the pick, trade up?
I want Tyler Bray. Potential is through the roof and Nix does love those Tennesse boys.


Have you watched Bray play? He's been horrendous this year. I wouldn't feel safe with us drafting him, and Barkley.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickChowaniec wrote:
marshawn lynch wrote:
Thelonebillsfan wrote:
Trentwannabe wrote:
BillsGuy82 wrote:
Well no [inappropriate/removed] !! Glad he realizes this and let's hope he targets the right prospect not reach. I see Tyler Wilson as the only real "franchise" guy this draft.


fixed it Laughing


Considering he's the only real Franchise type guy we have a shot at, I'd agree.

If someone is about to take him and we don't have the pick, trade up?
I want Tyler Bray. Potential is through the roof and Nix does love those Tennesse boys.


Have you watched Bray play? He's been horrendous this year. I wouldn't feel safe with us drafting him, and Barkley.


I agree i like Smith and Wilson. Barkley makes me thing of Sanchez, and Bray is very inconsistent, and only plays well against lessor competition. Wilson Seems to be the front runner thoug
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler Bray does seem like someone Nix would draft, he also would kinda fit the idea of sitting behind Fitz a year or two which Nix hinted at yesterday when he said Gailey wasn't going anywhere. I think obviously the rest of this season will play a huge part in which QB we draft, if we win 1-2 more games then we'll have a shot at Smith, if we go 6-10 or 7-9 then i think Wilson is a legit possibility.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barkley is the "next USC guy." They look great in college because they beat up on less talented teams all year long, they get to the pros an don't cut it. Carson Palmer is the most successful recent USC QB and uh, yeah, he had a really good season that one time.

I'd rather grab EJ Manuel than anybody in this class other than Geno. To me, Manuel has the tools, comes from good coaching, would be able to play in the current system and is going to be available for the Bills.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Barkley is the "next USC guy." They look great in college because they beat up on less talented teams all year long, they get to the pros an don't cut it. Carson Palmer is the most successful recent USC QB and uh, yeah, he had a really good season that one time.

I'd rather grab EJ Manuel than anybody in this class other than Geno. To me, Manuel has the tools, comes from good coaching, would be able to play in the current system and is going to be available for the Bills.


If we drafted EJ Manuel at any point before the 4th round, I'd go ballistic.

We'd be a joke if we did, he has literally no ability to make reads, no anticipation, and little pocket presence (something we're learning can't be easily taughtt). He doesn't play smart football. His athleticism is over-rated, he just doesn't have the tools you need to succeed in the NFL. But that's just my opinion.

Bray is too immature, everything I see of him screams Ryan Leaf. Not to mention the inconsistency on the field. We already have a massively inconsistent QB, what would an already inconsistent guy learn from him? The only guys I like are Wilson and Geno, and Glennon and Dysert in the later rounds. Everybody else scares me or doesn't have any sort of franchise potential.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly I don't get all the Geno Smith hype. He is the epitome of inconsistency, and has only played well against lesser teams. He was great against Marshall, James Madison, Maryland, Baylor, and pretty good against Texas. Since then, against Texas Tech, Kansas State, and TCU he's been average at best. I don't see how that's better than Barkley.

I don't think we'll take Barkley, and I'm ok with that, but I don't see how anyone can have Geno Smith rated ahead of Barkley.
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As a former UT student and current Knoxville resident, let me tell you about Bray. He's JP Losman, minus the running ability. He doesn't really know what he's doing out there and depends on his ability to chuck the ball deep. It's crazy how often he'll stare down a receiver, or just look for someone open (like he doesn't know the playbook). He also has terrible mechanics. He throws sidearmed off his back foot, even when there's no pressure. I'm not sure my heart could take any more Tyler Bray, unless he really cleans up his game.

Also, there's this:

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2012/jul/25/tyler-bray-roommate-accused-of-throwing-beer-off/
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Nucealius wrote:
As a former UT student and current Knoxville resident, let me tell you about Bray. He's JP Losman, minus the running ability. He doesn't really know what he's doing out there and depends on his ability to chuck the ball deep. It's crazy how often he'll stare down a receiver, or just look for someone open (like he doesn't know the playbook). He also has terrible mechanics. He throws sidearmed off his back foot, even when there's no pressure. I'm not sure my heart could take any more Tyler Bray, unless he really cleans up his game.

Also, there's this:

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2012/jul/25/tyler-bray-roommate-accused-of-throwing-beer-off/


Like I said.

Screams Ryan Leaf.
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IMHO, this QB class will go down as one of the worst in recent history. The vast majority of those who will be drafted this spring are inconsistent, can't read defenses, have terrible mechanics, and on and on.

QB is one position that you do not evaluate based on "potential". A good NFL QB either plays calm under pressure, reads defenses pre-snap well, acts decisively, and has the ability to deliver the ball with significant accuracy and with reasonably good velocity in college or else fails. Just the way it is. You can't calm a nervous Nelly. You can't magically force QB's to act decisively. You can't make someone's arm stronger. And you can't fix stupid.

If we do identify someone we can legitimately trade up for (think Tannehill this last draft), we need to seriously consider it. The new rookie pay scale has made trading up in the 1st round a reasonable possibility now. Of course, doing so means we'd have to accept that very little will improve on the defensive side of the ball. Calculated tradeoff. If the FO feels the QB class will be much better the following year, maybe it makes more sense to fix our D and ride the Fitz-led offense another year.
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OffseasonChamps wrote:
Barkley is the "next USC guy." They look great in college because they beat up on less talented teams all year long, they get to the pros an don't cut it. Carson Palmer is the most successful recent USC QB and uh, yeah, he had a really good season that one time.

I'd rather grab EJ Manuel than anybody in this class other than Geno. To me, Manuel has the tools, comes from good coaching, would be able to play in the current system and is going to be available for the Bills.


To be fair, Palmer had 3 very good seasons in a row, and his career dropoff has much to do with a cheap shot that led to an injury..

Plus, for his entire career his TD:Int is 176:121, which is much better than we have seen here in Buffalo..



Mark Sanchez was hugely overrated coming out of college, but I think Barkley's expectations are reasonable.. Similar to Stafford coming out of school, he is looked at as (probably) the top QB, but far from a slam dunk, once in a generation QB..

I dont think any sort of USC bias is at play that overrates his abilities..
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