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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why when the Pats make moves like this, people get excited.

People stated they were geniuses when they traded low picks for Haynesworth and Chad....how did that work out?

This is relatively low risk so its no big deal, but lets hold off before saying this was a smart move just because its the Pats.
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Meanwhile the Lions are trading a 5rd for a.........WR? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FourThreeMafia wrote:
Not sure why when the Pats make moves like this, people get excited.

People stated they were geniuses when they traded low picks for Haynesworth and Chad....how did that work out?

This is relatively low risk so its no big deal, but lets hold off before saying this was a smart move just because its the Pats.


Because considering past success with the likes of Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon, and Randy Moss, we have at least broke even with deals such as this one.
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This seems like a great deal for the Pats. They now have a young and athletic cornerback that will do great things in their secondary, assuming he stays out of trouble.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Meanwhile the Lions are trading a 5rd for a.........WR? Confused
Well you can't really fault the Lions for staying away from Talib. They've goten a lot of attention for the legal troubles that various players on the team have had. Trading for another troubled player really doesn't send the message that they want to be sending to the rest of the locker room in that regard.

The Pats can do it because they have what is generally considered to be a tight ship and have a history of turning these types of players around.
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This seems like a great deal for the Pats. They now have a young and athletic cornerback that will do great things in their secondary, assuming he stays out of trouble.


Problem is we have to coach him up, and the Patriots have shown little to no ability to develop defensive backs.
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NFL policy is that suspensions are for games, not bye weeks. So new Patriots CB Aqib Talib is not eligible to play until Nov. 18 vs. Indy.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nefarious Bill wrote:
FourThreeMafia wrote:
Not sure why when the Pats make moves like this, people get excited.

People stated they were geniuses when they traded low picks for Haynesworth and Chad....how did that work out?

This is relatively low risk so its no big deal, but lets hold off before saying this was a smart move just because its the Pats.


Because considering past success with the likes of Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon, and Randy Moss, we have at least broke even with deals such as this one.
How have you broke even if he hasn't played for you yet?
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FourThreeMafia wrote:
Not sure why when the Pats make moves like this, people get excited.

People stated they were geniuses when they traded low picks for Haynesworth and Chad....how did that work out?

This is relatively low risk so its no big deal, but lets hold off before saying this was a smart move just because its the Pats.
This was my first thought when I heard the trade. People gunna be peein they pants "ZOMG BB IZ BEST GM EVAR!!!!!!@11#!! STEEL!!!!" and then Talib will get arrested 8 more times and will get cut and nobody will say a word. If a team like the Dolphins/Bills/Cardinals/Raiders ect made this exact same trade those same people would say "TROLOLOLOL, They is so desperation it aint even bee funny."
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Nefarious Bill wrote:
FourThreeMafia wrote:
Not sure why when the Pats make moves like this, people get excited.

People stated they were geniuses when they traded low picks for Haynesworth and Chad....how did that work out?

This is relatively low risk so its no big deal, but lets hold off before saying this was a smart move just because its the Pats.


Because considering past success with the likes of Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon, and Randy Moss, we have at least broke even with deals such as this one.


Those deals were made 8+ years ago. Lately, these deals have not been panning out. It's very up in the air if this one will. Talib is a FA at year's end and can't stay out of trouble.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FourThreeMafia wrote:
Not sure why when the Pats make moves like this, people get excited.

People stated they were geniuses when they traded low picks for Haynesworth and Chad....how did that work out?

This is relatively low risk so its no big deal, but lets hold off before saying this was a smart move just because its the Pats.


I'll say this... Haynesworth and Chad Ochocinco didn't flop because the Pats were somehow unable to keep them in line. Hell, Ocho was falling over himself trying to be successful. They didn't work out because the two are simply bad players at this point.

Chalk that up to bad homework by the Pats FO, but it doesn't say the Pats "can't handle malcontents" or something like that - if Corey Dillon showed up tomorrow he'd do fine. Hope this reflects some good hw.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good trade for the Bucs. TBD for the Patriots. Haven't been impressed with Talib lately, but if the Patriots can turn him around then it's a good deal for them as well...
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Good luck Pats fans. At his absolute best he's wildly inconsistent, and for the past year and a half or so he's just been flat out awful for the most part. Top ten talent, ten cent head. I expect he'll find it in himself to keep his nose clean for the last half of the season, so as long as you don't re-sign him that shouldn't be a huge concern. If you do though, the moment he feels even slightly comfortable he will go out of his way to find new and skull-numbingly stupid ways to burn you.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nefarious Bill wrote:
FourThreeMafia wrote:
Not sure why when the Pats make moves like this, people get excited.

People stated they were geniuses when they traded low picks for Haynesworth and Chad....how did that work out?

This is relatively low risk so its no big deal, but lets hold off before saying this was a smart move just because its the Pats.


Because considering past success with the likes of Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon, and Randy Moss, we have at least broke even with deals such as this one.
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BBando wrote:
Nefarious Bill wrote:
FourThreeMafia wrote:
Not sure why when the Pats make moves like this, people get excited.

People stated they were geniuses when they traded low picks for Haynesworth and Chad....how did that work out?

This is relatively low risk so its no big deal, but lets hold off before saying this was a smart move just because its the Pats.


Because considering past success with the likes of Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon, and Randy Moss, we have at least broke even with deals such as this one.
How have you broke even if he hasn't played for you yet?


Because even if the deal turns out bad, our track record with troubled vets would still be good.
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