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nugpimpen


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Am i correct in feeling that every week that passes in which Heckert is still with the team, the better the chances are that Banner / Haslam have decided to keep him? I'm sure I don't need to go into why it's more important to hire a new GM now than wait until the offseason, but I just get the feeling that if Heckert is here come college bowl season, he'll be kept.


I don't think they would fire anyone midseason.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BwickBrownie wrote:
Am i correct in feeling that every week that passes in which Heckert is still with the team, the better the chances are that Banner / Haslam have decided to keep him? I'm sure I don't need to go into why it's more important to hire a new GM now than wait until the offseason, but I just get the feeling that if Heckert is here come college bowl season, he'll be kept.


I don't think they would fire anyone midseason.


I know that makes sense with coaches and even some front office staffers, but wouldnt the next GM be seriously behind the 8 ball if they waited to bring him in until the off season? Right now it seems like a GM should be getting pretty deep in college scouting, preliminary draft board work, off-season prioritizing/strategizing, etc. so keeping Heckert only to drop him after the season is over really seems like a bad idea to me.
I'll admit that maybe there is an angle that I'm not seeing, but it just doesnt add up to me to keep him on, unless they really don't know what to do with him yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BwickBrownie wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
BwickBrownie wrote:
Am i correct in feeling that every week that passes in which Heckert is still with the team, the better the chances are that Banner / Haslam have decided to keep him? I'm sure I don't need to go into why it's more important to hire a new GM now than wait until the offseason, but I just get the feeling that if Heckert is here come college bowl season, he'll be kept.


I don't think they would fire anyone midseason.


I know that makes sense with coaches and even some front office staffers, but wouldnt the next GM be seriously behind the 8 ball if they waited to bring him in until the off season? Right now it seems like a GM should be getting pretty deep in college scouting, preliminary draft board work, off-season prioritizing/strategizing, etc. so keeping Heckert only to drop him after the season is over really seems like a bad idea to me.
I'll admit that maybe there is an angle that I'm not seeing, but it just doesnt add up to me to keep him on, unless they really don't know what to do with him yet.


I just know that Haslem said no changes mid season.

I hope you are right and they keep Heckert. He's legit
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
BwickBrownie wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
BwickBrownie wrote:
Am i correct in feeling that every week that passes in which Heckert is still with the team, the better the chances are that Banner / Haslam have decided to keep him? I'm sure I don't need to go into why it's more important to hire a new GM now than wait until the offseason, but I just get the feeling that if Heckert is here come college bowl season, he'll be kept.


I don't think they would fire anyone midseason.


I know that makes sense with coaches and even some front office staffers, but wouldnt the next GM be seriously behind the 8 ball if they waited to bring him in until the off season? Right now it seems like a GM should be getting pretty deep in college scouting, preliminary draft board work, off-season prioritizing/strategizing, etc. so keeping Heckert only to drop him after the season is over really seems like a bad idea to me.
I'll admit that maybe there is an angle that I'm not seeing, but it just doesnt add up to me to keep him on, unless they really don't know what to do with him yet.


I just know that Haslem said no changes mid season.

I hope you are right and they keep Heckert. He's legit


Agreed... and I don't want to turn this into another "should heckert stay or go" thread, it was just something that was weighing on my mind after I read the Lombardi (whom I also do not want) article. I just think there is some merit to the notion that them not having gotten rid of Heckert yet is a good sign they may keep him moving forward.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straight from Banner's mouth:

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Q: Jason LaCanfora of CBS Sports reported you're considering former Browns personnel executive Mike Lombardi. True?

A: Since I haven't even decided whether I'm keeping the people that are here, at best it's wild speculation and in this case it's unfounded. Somebody's taking a shot in the dark.


http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/11/cleveland_browns_ceo_joe_banne_1.html
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard Lombardi's name again today on 92.3. Allegedly...Banner will hire him as a GM and the next coach will be a high profile College guy.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I heard Lombardi's name again today on 92.3. Allegedly...Banner will hire him as a GM and the next coach will be a high profile College guy.


Rumors... Writers making up stories because they have nothing to do to justify their paycheck.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
big poppa pump wrote:
I heard Lombardi's name again today on 92.3. Allegedly...Banner will hire him as a GM and the next coach will be a high profile College guy.


Rumors... Writers making up stories because they have nothing to do to justify their paycheck.


Thats what people said about Howard Eskin reporting the Browns will be sold and Joe Banner will be involved two months before it ... actually happened
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
big poppa pump wrote:
I heard Lombardi's name again today on 92.3. Allegedly...Banner will hire him as a GM and the next coach will be a high profile College guy.


Rumors... Writers making up stories because they have nothing to do to justify their paycheck.


Thats what people said about Howard Eskin reporting the Browns will be sold and Joe Banner will be involved two months before it ... actually happened


That's what worries the [inappropriate/removed] out of me about this.

Where there is smoke...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy spewing this is Hub Arkush from Pro Football Weekly. I'm not sure how accurate his predictions are.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
big poppa pump wrote:
I heard Lombardi's name again today on 92.3. Allegedly...Banner will hire him as a GM and the next coach will be a high profile College guy.


Rumors... Writers making up stories because they have nothing to do to justify their paycheck.


Thats what people said about Howard Eskin reporting the Browns will be sold and Joe Banner will be involved two months before it ... actually happened

Hopefully, it's more like the rumor that Haslam was gonna give an ownership stake in the Browns to Gruden, so he'll coach at UTenn.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I heard Lombardi's name again today on 92.3. Allegedly...Banner will hire him as a GM and the next coach will be a high profile College guy.


Michael Lombardi GM
Nick Saban HC

Someone's got Browns 95 on the brain...
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I don't typically like some of Tony Grossi's stuff, but I think he hit the nail on the head with this article. I do not like Lombardi, I think he's a scrub who got by with other peoples information and turned it into a few minor stints with NFL teams before they caught on to him. He's a complete joke and this franchise would be taking a major step back if he in fact does become the new GM

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=9031
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeHDruiD wrote:
I don't typically like some of Tony Grossi's stuff, but I think he hit the nail on the head with this article. I do not like Lombardi, I think he's a scrub who got by with other peoples information and turned it into a few minor stints with NFL teams before they caught on to him. He's a complete joke and this franchise would be taking a major step back if he in fact does become the new GM

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=9031


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He responded: “We have it confidentially from very good sources close to the story that Mike is a strong front-runner for the job. If you work (your) way backwards you'll find a Banner/Lombardi connection in Philly. Problem is Tom Heckert still has the job and if he's fired then there's the Rooney rule . . . But we believe once the dust settles it'll be Mike.”


If we hire Michael Lombardi I am done.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
I don't typically like some of Tony Grossi's stuff, but I think he hit the nail on the head with this article. I do not like Lombardi, I think he's a scrub who got by with other peoples information and turned it into a few minor stints with NFL teams before they caught on to him. He's a complete joke and this franchise would be taking a major step back if he in fact does become the new GM

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=9031


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He responded: “We have it confidentially from very good sources close to the story that Mike is a strong front-runner for the job. If you work (your) way backwards you'll find a Banner/Lombardi connection in Philly. Problem is Tom Heckert still has the job and if he's fired then there's the Rooney rule . . . But we believe once the dust settles it'll be Mike.”


If we hire Michael Lombardi I am done.



This is where I normally tell you to step back from the ledge....

Instead, I shall approach it with you.

HE IS SO BAD

HOW COULD BANNER AND HASLEM NOT SEE THIS.

You normally look at a Resume before hiring.

Could their be a worse Resume in the league?
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