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DawgSoldier
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: Jarvis Jones Medical condition? |
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I did not know Jarvis Jones has spinal stenosis. I believe that is the same thing that made Lee Suggs have to walk away from football. That medical condition is no joke.
This makes me very wary of even considering him with a 1st rounder. 
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Jarvis Jones Medical condition? |
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| DawgSoldier wrote: | I did not know Jarvis Jones has spinal stenosis. I believe that is the same thing that made Lee Suggs have to walk away from football. That medical condition is no joke.
This makes me very wary of even considering him with a 1st rounder. |
if our team doctors clear him, than i would want him |
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From Wikki
Spinal stenosis is an abnormal narrowing (stenosis) of the spinal canal that may occur in any of the regions of the spine. This narrowing causes a restriction to the spinal canal, resulting in a neurological deficit. Symptoms include pain, numbness, paraesthesia, and loss of motor control. The location of the stenosis determines which area of the body is affected.[1] With spinal stenosis, the spinal canal is narrowed at the vertebral canal, which is a foramen between the vertebrae where the spinal cord (in the cervical or thoracic spine) or nerve roots (in the lumbar spine) pass through.[2] There are several types of spinal stenosis: lumbar stenosis and cervical stenosis being the most frequent. While lumbar spinal stenosis is more common, cervical spinal stenosis is more dangerous because it involves compression of the spinal cord.
makes him sound like a ticking injury time bomb.
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It's why Marcus McNeil had to retire early... It's not a death sentence, but it's not great.
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| mas_atc wrote: | | It's why Marcus McNeil had to retire early... It's not a death sentence, but it's not great. |
So your telling me there is a shelf life issue which may be compounded by contact?
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| DawgSoldier wrote: | | mas_atc wrote: | | It's why Marcus McNeil had to retire early... It's not a death sentence, but it's not great. |
So your telling me there is a shelf life issue which may be compounded by contact? |
he has been playing with it ever since his days at USC
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | | mas_atc wrote: | | It's why Marcus McNeil had to retire early... It's not a death sentence, but it's not great. |
So your telling me there is a shelf life issue which may be compounded by contact? |
he has been playing with it ever since his days at USC |
not sure if thats a good or bad thing...
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | | mas_atc wrote: | | It's why Marcus McNeil had to retire early... It's not a death sentence, but it's not great. |
So your telling me there is a shelf life issue which may be compounded by contact? |
he has been playing with it ever since his days at USC |
And he's now out of the league after 5 years in a position where he's probably less likely to jar his body with high speed impacts than at LB.
It worries the heck out of me.
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| Estonianzulu wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | | mas_atc wrote: | | It's why Marcus McNeil had to retire early... It's not a death sentence, but it's not great. |
So your telling me there is a shelf life issue which may be compounded by contact? |
he has been playing with it ever since his days at USC |
And he's now out of the league after 5 years in a position where he's probably less likely to jar his body with high speed impacts than at LB.
It worries the heck out of me. |
Same. I wouldn't touch him in the draft. Doctors can clear him for imediate action but only a fool would believe they know how long he can play at a high level with his medical issues.
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| bungleodeon wrote: | | Estonianzulu wrote: | | Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | | mas_atc wrote: | | It's why Marcus McNeil had to retire early... It's not a death sentence, but it's not great. |
So your telling me there is a shelf life issue which may be compounded by contact? |
he has been playing with it ever since his days at USC |
And he's now out of the league after 5 years in a position where he's probably less likely to jar his body with high speed impacts than at LB.
It worries the heck out of me. |
Same. I wouldn't touch him in the draft. Doctors can clear him for imediate action but only a fool would believe they know how long he can play at a high level with his medical issues. |
there is no guarantee on how long any athlete will play.
we could draft anyone, their career could last a 15games or 15years. Like with Ernie davis, dude never saw a down. IMO if Jones sees enough doctors and they get enough good things I have no problems. If its iffy i dont want to touch them but if the doctors give him a full ok im fine with taking him |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| mas_atc wrote: | | It's why Marcus McNeil had to retire early... It's not a death sentence, but it's not great. |
Yep, I remember when McNeill came out they said he'd burn brightly for a while but injuries would eventually end his career. 6 years later, he's out of the league.
I'd take a likely 10-15 years from Te'o over gambling on this injury with Jones, especially given that he's a LB and will be dishing hits out his entire career. It is not something to screw around with so early in the draft. |
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Mastercheddaar
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: hmmm |
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Not worth a top 5 pick then. Too bad.
that is all
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| buno67 wrote: |
there is no guarantee on how long any athlete will play.
we could draft anyone, their career could last a 15games or 15years. Like with Ernie davis, dude never saw a down. IMO if Jones sees enough doctors and they get enough good things I have no problems. If its iffy i dont want to touch them but if the doctors give him a full ok im fine with taking him |
Had people known he had leukemia he wouldn't have been the #1 overall draft pick, hell, he wouldn't have been drafted.
There are never any guarantees, which is exactly why I would rather take a guy without a spinal condition than one with one. Far too risky considering the only 2 guys I have ever heard playing NFL football with this condition ended up having their careers shortened by it.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:51 am Post subject: Re: hmmm |
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| Mastercheddaar wrote: | Not worth a top 5 pick then. Too bad.
that is all
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Too bad is right. In a draft lacking elite talent, having a guy with serious medical concerns takes another top guy off some boards. Not good for those of us with a high pick...
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