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How do You feel about Finley
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JaguarCrazy2832


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well thats funny bc i bet the team is disappointed in him too
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

incognito_man wrote:
What players say to the media means slightly more than nothing to me. I really do not care.

Only thing I care about is whether their value to the team is good or bad.

The rest is soap opera drama stuff that is irrelevant to my enjoyment of the product on the field.


You've been on Finley's bandwagon the entire time. Now that his on-field performance has become far less valuable than the $5m salary he has, and incredibly far less valuable than the $8.3m price tag he would require for next season, would you say that it is time for us to move on from him?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandybaby716 wrote:
incognito_man wrote:
What players say to the media means slightly more than nothing to me. I really do not care.

Only thing I care about is whether their value to the team is good or bad.

The rest is soap opera drama stuff that is irrelevant to my enjoyment of the product on the field.


You've been on Finley's bandwagon the entire time. Now that his on-field performance has become far less valuable than the $5m salary he has, and incredibly far less valuable than the $8.3m price tag he would require for next season, would you say that it is time for us to move on from him?



We rode his previous success in games like STL and Houston. Teams were still double covering him all over the field, that's worth a good bit of $$$ to me. The respect teams showed Finley has a lot to do with Randall Cobb and his seeing, and winning his early one on ones. Now defenses aren't respecting Finley anymore, its time for the staff and AR to see that and get him involved again. I'm far from giving up on Finley.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Packerraymond wrote:
Sandybaby716 wrote:
incognito_man wrote:
What players say to the media means slightly more than nothing to me. I really do not care.

Only thing I care about is whether their value to the team is good or bad.

The rest is soap opera drama stuff that is irrelevant to my enjoyment of the product on the field.


You've been on Finley's bandwagon the entire time. Now that his on-field performance has become far less valuable than the $5m salary he has, and incredibly far less valuable than the $8.3m price tag he would require for next season, would you say that it is time for us to move on from him?



We rode his previous success in games like STL and Houston. Teams were still double covering him all over the field, that's worth a good bit of $$$ to me. The respect teams showed Finley has a lot to do with Randall Cobb and his seeing, and winning his early one on ones. Now defenses aren't respecting Finley anymore, its time for the staff and AR to see that and get him involved again. I'm far from giving up on Finley.


I'm totally with you. Let's hope we can boost his confidence.

I know he's a headcase, but some of the great players are. Can we win without him? Sure, but it will be harder.

Whether or not he's worth the money and whether or not he's worth a Greg Jennings (if that's what it boils down to) is a different question.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, haven't we learned about Finley by now? He states some questionable drivel to the media, and then it's "CUT HIM. HE'S WORTHLESS BLAHBLAHBLAH"

Let's not jump to conclusions. I still think he's an important part of this offense, and he's obviously a matchup nightmare. Just look at that 40 yard play against Detroit last week...the guy still has it. His confidence is growing again, and that can only mean good things.

I don't care about what he says, I care about his performance on the field. Let's see if he can stack success. I think he will.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mxr124 wrote:
So it is written, so it shall be done! Rolling Eyes


Not sure where the attitude is coming from. That's clearly just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's just agree to disagree on this one. After getting down on Bush and Jones really bad the past few seasons, my tolerance for performance issues on players that I know can turn it around has changed. Gotta trust in TT.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone is talking about his confidence and blah blah blah, but we don't know his confidence level or more importantly Aaron Rodgers' confidence in him. Either way, confidence isn't going to completely solve his stone hands.
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pollino14 wrote:
Everyone is talking about his confidence and blah blah blah, but we don't know his confidence level or more importantly Aaron Rodgers' confidence in him. Either way, confidence isn't going to completely solve his stone hands.


What solved James Jones' stone hands?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

persiandud wrote:
Let's not jump to conclusions. I still think he's an important part of this offense, and he's obviously a matchup nightmare. Just look at that 40 yard play against Detroit last week...the guy still has it. His confidence is growing again, and that can only mean good things.


Except he really isn't. If he was he would have had a huge game. He's worked himself down from a key piece of the offense to a role player, and he isn't nearly the "matchup nightmare" he is touted to be. I would be willing to bet DCs would love to see us trying to feed Finley if it meant Cobb, Nelson, Jennings, and Jones were being taken away. He had a big play vs Detroit because they almost weren't even accounting for him. Finley has never lacked confidence, if anything his problem is he has too much of it. I don't think the fact that he caught the only 3 passes targeted at him will do much to erase Rodgers/McCarthy's lack of faith in him.

mxr124 wrote:
What solved James Jones' stone hands?


I would bet the answer to that is hard work.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilltray wrote:
persiandud wrote:
Let's not jump to conclusions. I still think he's an important part of this offense, and he's obviously a matchup nightmare. Just look at that 40 yard play against Detroit last week...the guy still has it. His confidence is growing again, and that can only mean good things.


Except he really isn't. If he was he would have had a huge game. He's worked himself down from a key piece of the offense to a role player, and he isn't nearly the "matchup nightmare" he is touted to be. I would be willing to bet DCs would love to see us trying to feed Finley if it meant Cobb, Nelson, Jennings, and Jones were being taken away. He had a big play vs Detroit because they almost weren't even accounting for him. Finley has never lacked confidence, if anything his problem is he has too much of it. I don't think the fact that he caught the only 3 passes targeted at him will do much to erase Rodgers/McCarthy's lack of faith in him.

mxr124 wrote:
What solved James Jones' stone hands?


I would bet the answer to that is hard work.


He's a dope and says stupid things but from all accounts he is a hard worker. I'm wondering if his poor play these past couple of years is because he's no Einstein. Wink
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spilltray wrote:
persiandud wrote:
Let's not jump to conclusions. I still think he's an important part of this offense, and he's obviously a matchup nightmare. Just look at that 40 yard play against Detroit last week...the guy still has it. His confidence is growing again, and that can only mean good things.


Except he really isn't. If he was he would have had a huge game. He's worked himself down from a key piece of the offense to a role player, and he isn't nearly the "matchup nightmare" he is touted to be. I would be willing to bet DCs would love to see us trying to feed Finley if it meant Cobb, Nelson, Jennings, and Jones were being taken away. He had a big play vs Detroit because they almost weren't even accounting for him. Finley has never lacked confidence, if anything his problem is he has too much of it. I don't think the fact that he caught the only 3 passes targeted at him will do much to erase Rodgers/McCarthy's lack of faith in him.

mxr124 wrote:
What solved James Jones' stone hands?


I would bet the answer to that is hard work.


I think hard work may be a little bit too simple. These guys have caught tens of thousands of balls in their careers. They know how to catch a football. Confidence plays a huge part in a guys ability to catch a football
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pugger wrote:
spilltray wrote:
persiandud wrote:
Let's not jump to conclusions. I still think he's an important part of this offense, and he's obviously a matchup nightmare. Just look at that 40 yard play against Detroit last week...the guy still has it. His confidence is growing again, and that can only mean good things.


Except he really isn't. If he was he would have had a huge game. He's worked himself down from a key piece of the offense to a role player, and he isn't nearly the "matchup nightmare" he is touted to be. I would be willing to bet DCs would love to see us trying to feed Finley if it meant Cobb, Nelson, Jennings, and Jones were being taken away. He had a big play vs Detroit because they almost weren't even accounting for him. Finley has never lacked confidence, if anything his problem is he has too much of it. I don't think the fact that he caught the only 3 passes targeted at him will do much to erase Rodgers/McCarthy's lack of faith in him.

mxr124 wrote:
What solved James Jones' stone hands?


I would bet the answer to that is hard work.


He's a dope and says stupid things but from all accounts he is a hard worker. I'm wondering if his poor play these past couple of years is because he's no Einstein. Wink


I don't trust that he is actually a hard worker. His lack of effort in games would counteract the thought that he is a hard worker in practice. If he was really a hard worker he'd give effort in the blocking game, not be rounding off routes, and work his way back to the QB on scrambles. If he's working hard in practice, why is he lazy in games?
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AlexGreen#20 wrote:
spilltray wrote:
persiandud wrote:
Let's not jump to conclusions. I still think he's an important part of this offense, and he's obviously a matchup nightmare. Just look at that 40 yard play against Detroit last week...the guy still has it. His confidence is growing again, and that can only mean good things.


Except he really isn't. If he was he would have had a huge game. He's worked himself down from a key piece of the offense to a role player, and he isn't nearly the "matchup nightmare" he is touted to be. I would be willing to bet DCs would love to see us trying to feed Finley if it meant Cobb, Nelson, Jennings, and Jones were being taken away. He had a big play vs Detroit because they almost weren't even accounting for him. Finley has never lacked confidence, if anything his problem is he has too much of it. I don't think the fact that he caught the only 3 passes targeted at him will do much to erase Rodgers/McCarthy's lack of faith in him.

mxr124 wrote:
What solved James Jones' stone hands?


I would bet the answer to that is hard work.


I think hard work may be a little bit too simple. These guys have caught tens of thousands of balls in their careers. They know how to catch a football. Confidence plays a huge part in a guys ability to catch a football


I would say concentration has more to do with it than confidence.
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The drops can be like a cold--you just have to let it run its course. It's like a slump in baseball.
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