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Titanium
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Well, I don't see Palmer getting canned just because Cook is mad.
If Hass or Locker were complaining than, yeah, maybe Palmer would be in trouble. I'm not a big Palmer fan...either.
If Cook is mad and wants to be traded and can't put in a good effort for the Titans than they may as well see what they can get for him. 
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| Quote: | John Glennon @glennonsports
Munchak says doesn't know about Cook trade request. Says it's not something likely to happen. |
How would Munch not know about it? |
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WindyCity
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt the Titans trade him.
The real issue is that be size of his free agency his value is really diminished. I don't think the Titans will get anything close to what they would want.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| TitanLegend wrote: | | Quote: | John Glennon @glennonsports
Munchak says doesn't know about Cook trade request. Says it's not something likely to happen. |
How would Munch not know about it? |
LOL!
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| Cook isn't worth a franchise tag imo he would be getting paid as much as gronk witten gonzales hernadaze (spell) gates and davis hes got the talent but the guy only really produces about 3 or 4 games a year he isn't nearly consistent enough to try to build and offense around. To me hes a complement to chris Johnson and are receivers i dont think are offense would miss a beat without him. Im a big Cool fan but if he wamts out what are we loosing? 500 yards and 2 or 3 touchdowns? Stevens can put up those kinda numbers and produce much better in the running game. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Titans_31 wrote: | | Cook isn't worth a franchise tag imo he would be getting paid as much as gronk witten gonzales hernadaze (spell) gates and davis hes got the talent but the guy only really produces about 3 or 4 games a year he isn't nearly consistent enough to try to build and offense around. To me hes a complement to chris Johnson and are receivers i dont think are offense would miss a beat without him. Im a big Cool fan but if he wamts out what are we loosing? 500 yards and 2 or 3 touchdowns? Stevens can put up those kinda numbers and produce much better in the running game. |
We'd be losing out on our most consistently open weapon that has caught 70% of the passes thrown his direction this season. He can only run his routes and get separation, can't force himself onto the field or force Hass to look his way.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| titans0021 wrote: | | Titans_31 wrote: | | Cook isn't worth a franchise tag imo he would be getting paid as much as gronk witten gonzales hernadaze (spell) gates and davis hes got the talent but the guy only really produces about 3 or 4 games a year he isn't nearly consistent enough to try to build and offense around. To me hes a complement to chris Johnson and are receivers i dont think are offense would miss a beat without him. Im a big Cool fan but if he wamts out what are we loosing? 500 yards and 2 or 3 touchdowns? Stevens can put up those kinda numbers and produce much better in the running game. |
We'd be losing out on our most consistently open weapon that has caught 70% of the passes thrown his direction this season. He can only run his routes and get separation, can't force himself onto the field or force Hass to look his way. |
Eh, he's at 70%, but Stevens is at 75%. Cook does some things very well - including the seam route, which opposing defenses can't seem to figure out - but it's not like he catches everything that comes his way and runs the entire route tree like a WR. |
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For one, this shouldn't be a Stevens vs. Cook issue. Both of them are great contributors in their own way. Cook can create better mismatches against defenders for more explosive plays, and Stevens is both a good blocker and a better pass catching threat than people want to give him credit for. If anything, I'd like to see more of them on the field as a duo rather than switching them out. Losing Cook would be a big mistake IMO, and we need to find was to take full advantage of his abilities.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's pretty telling when all of us can see that Hass isn't looking at Cook and he isn't getting the ball enough, and now he is asking for a trade. Makes me feel like it's less on Cook and more on our FO/Coaching staff.
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titans0021
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| titansNvolsR#1 wrote: | | I think it's pretty telling when all of us can see that Hass isn't looking at Cook and he isn't getting the ball enough, and now he is asking for a trade. Makes me feel like it's less on Cook and more on our FO/Coaching staff. |
I've said this numerous times, but when I finally got to see a game in person in Minnesota, I was honestly shocked at how often he got behind the defense and open.
He's not the crispest route runner, but the guy just finds his way into space. I don't care if we want to line him up at receiver every play, he needs to be out on the field a helluva lot more than 50% of the time.
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| titans0021 wrote: | | titansNvolsR#1 wrote: | | I think it's pretty telling when all of us can see that Hass isn't looking at Cook and he isn't getting the ball enough, and now he is asking for a trade. Makes me feel like it's less on Cook and more on our FO/Coaching staff. |
I've said this numerous times, but when I finally got to see a game in person in Minnesota, I was honestly shocked at how often he got behind the defense and open.
He's not the crispest route runner, but the guy just finds his way into space. I don't care if we want to line him up at receiver every play, he needs to be out on the field a helluva lot more than 50% of the time. |
Think it was the second drive of the game, but Stevens and Cook are running basically the same route and Hass tries to force it into Stevens for an incompletion. Cook was wide open literally 5 feet from Stevens who had a LB draped all over him.
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Yup, assuming you're talking about the play I'm thinking of, Stevens ran a short five-yard curl and Cook ran a quick out route. Defender collapsed on Stevens leaving Cook free towards the sideline but Stevens was the primary read and Hass didn't bother looking Cook's way. It happens way too often.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| titans0021 wrote: | | Yup, assuming you're talking about the play I'm thinking of, Stevens ran a short five-yard curl and Cook ran a quick out route. Defender collapsed on Stevens leaving Cook free towards the sideline but Stevens was the primary read and Hass didn't bother looking Cook's way. It happens way too often. |
Perhaps Cook found out about Jake's shoulder, reached the obvious conclusion that Hass is probably going to be the starter for the rest of the year, and decided he wants out sooner rather than later. |
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titans0021
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| s_camp wrote: | | titans0021 wrote: | | Yup, assuming you're talking about the play I'm thinking of, Stevens ran a short five-yard curl and Cook ran a quick out route. Defender collapsed on Stevens leaving Cook free towards the sideline but Stevens was the primary read and Hass didn't bother looking Cook's way. It happens way too often. |
Perhaps Cook found out about Jake's shoulder, reached the obvious conclusion that Hass is probably going to be the starter for the rest of the year, and decided he wants out sooner rather than later. |
Can't blame him. He knows he's not going to put up the numbers he is capable of with Hass under center and he wants an opportunity to close out the year elsewhere and increase his FA stock.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| titans0021 wrote: | | s_camp wrote: | | titans0021 wrote: | | Yup, assuming you're talking about the play I'm thinking of, Stevens ran a short five-yard curl and Cook ran a quick out route. Defender collapsed on Stevens leaving Cook free towards the sideline but Stevens was the primary read and Hass didn't bother looking Cook's way. It happens way too often. |
Perhaps Cook found out about Jake's shoulder, reached the obvious conclusion that Hass is probably going to be the starter for the rest of the year, and decided he wants out sooner rather than later. |
Can't blame him. He knows he's not going to put up the numbers he is capable of with Hass under center and he wants an opportunity to close out the year elsewhere and increase his FA stock. |
I can see why he'd feel that way, but playing with Hasselbeck didn't seem to drag him down too much last year. Weird situation. |
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