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s_camp
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| UTMoc10 wrote: | | What really bothers me is how Palmer was so high on Thompson yet he hasn't done anything on offense. It's almost like he is forcing Cook out. The only way I see Cook staying if he isn't traded is if Palmer is out as OC. |
To be fair, Palmer was high on Thompson as a developmental player. I don't think anybody expected him to come in and do as a rookie what Cook is doing in his fourth year.
I think it's as simple as this: the recent offensive changes are here to stay, Stevens is a good enough receiving TE for what the offense requires, Stevens and Thompson are both better blockers than Cook, and the coaching staff is banking on Thompson developing into a weapon type TE. Just a theory, but I bet that's why his snaps have dropped off. |
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s_camp
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| RuskieTitan wrote: | | I hate our coordinators. |
Which one do you dislike more? Serious question. I think Gray is causing far more problems. |
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TitanLegend
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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I think Palmer this year has shown he's a solid offensive coordinator.
Leads me to believe the problem is with Cook, not Palmer. |
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ttitansfan4life
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| TitanLegend wrote: | I think Palmer this year has shown he's a solid offensive coordinator.
Leads me to believe the problem is with Cook, not Palmer. |
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EddieGeorge27
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ttitansfan4life wrote: | | TitanLegend wrote: | I think Palmer this year has shown he's a solid offensive coordinator.
Leads me to believe the problem is with Cook, not Palmer. |
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I doubt that, Cook has outperformed everybody when he gets thrown to, and Thompson has shown nothing outside of blocking.
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TitanLegend
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ttitansfan4life wrote: | | TitanLegend wrote: | I think Palmer this year has shown he's a solid offensive coordinator.
Leads me to believe the problem is with Cook, not Palmer. |
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Just think about it..
Palmer has been a solid OC for us. Not amazing, but solid.
Why wouldn't he use a 6'5, 250 pound man who runs a 4.4? He's using Britt correctly now that he's healthy. He's using Washington correctly. Using CJ correctly. Using Wright correctly..you're going to tell me he can't do the same with Cook?
It's likely Cook just goofs off in the film room or doesn't give it his all in practice, or something similar. I highly doubt this is on Palmer. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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This makes me sick.
You draft talented players in order to build a team.
This does not involve letting them walk after several years of development.
Clearly, our front office doesn't understand this. We let Finny walk and now this. I just can't wrap my head around it.
I hate rooting for a team that has no idea how to win in the NFL.
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s_camp
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| EddieGeorge27 wrote: | | ttitansfan4life wrote: | | TitanLegend wrote: | I think Palmer this year has shown he's a solid offensive coordinator.
Leads me to believe the problem is with Cook, not Palmer. |
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I doubt that, Cook has outperformed everybody when he gets thrown to, and Thompson has shown nothing outside of blocking. |
True, but Stevens performs well enough when thrown to and Cook is the worst blocker of the three. If Palmer needs a TE to block like a champ and be useful, but not spectacular, in the passing game, then Cook's ship has sailed. |
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Dionysus
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OK so obviously I'm not the only one whose been noticing this over the last several weeks. I've been saying time and time again that we need to get Cook more involved in the game. Since Matt-Hass been starting, I've seen less and less of Cook until late in the 4th on crucial drives. I don't have a problem with us using Craig Stevens more because he makes plays for us as well, but not if it's at the expense of using Cook even less. I hope we DON'T trade him and start using him more. I get the feeling that will all change if Locker takes over because Cook is one of his favorite targets.
BTW: If we did trade Cook, my guess would be with the Rams. He's one of Fisher's picks and would be a good weapon for Bradford and getting targeted more. And Fisher has draft picks to deal thanks to his buddy Shannahan.
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EddieGeorge27
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| s_camp wrote: | | EddieGeorge27 wrote: | | ttitansfan4life wrote: | | TitanLegend wrote: | I think Palmer this year has shown he's a solid offensive coordinator.
Leads me to believe the problem is with Cook, not Palmer. |
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I doubt that, Cook has outperformed everybody when he gets thrown to, and Thompson has shown nothing outside of blocking. |
True, but Stevens performs well enough when thrown to and Cook is the worst blocker of the three. If Palmer needs a TE to block like a champ and be useful, but not spectacular, in the passing game, then Cook's ship has sailed. |
I do love Stevens, but if Palmer cannot adapt his game plan to fit his most talented player, then Palmer's ship has also sailed.
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| EddieGeorge27 wrote: | | s_camp wrote: | | EddieGeorge27 wrote: | | ttitansfan4life wrote: | | TitanLegend wrote: | I think Palmer this year has shown he's a solid offensive coordinator.
Leads me to believe the problem is with Cook, not Palmer. |
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I doubt that, Cook has outperformed everybody when he gets thrown to, and Thompson has shown nothing outside of blocking. |
True, but Stevens performs well enough when thrown to and Cook is the worst blocker of the three. If Palmer needs a TE to block like a champ and be useful, but not spectacular, in the passing game, then Cook's ship has sailed. |
I do love Stevens, but if Palmer cannot adapt his game plan to fit his most talented player, then Palmer's ship has also sailed. |
Most talented player? I'd say CJ and Britt are both more talented than Cook. CJ has looked really good lately, thanks in part to offensive formations that specifically do not involve Cook but do involve the other TEs. I don't think that's a coincidence. Britt... well CJ has looked good lately. |
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TitanLegend
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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I can't believe people are saying things like "Palmer doesn't know football" over this..
With the strides Locker has made, the strides Britt has made(when healthy, anyway), Wright looking better each week, Nate Washington completely turning his career around, going from butterfingers to arguably our most sure handed receiver, the improvement our offensive line has made this year, CJ getting back to normal, etc...
And he suddenly "doesn't know football" because he doesn't involve one man, and the people are saying this without even knowing what's going on?  |
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lamont
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They locked up Stevens before the season and drafted Thompson. No way they give Cook a big contract. The handwriting was on the wall when they extended Stevens and not Cook. Might as well get something for him now and not let him walk after the season unless they plan to franchise him like they did Bo Scaife  . Cook has alot of talent, I just think either Munch or Palmer does not care for him for some reason.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Id take nothing less than a first maybe a second and a 3rd |
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| Quote: | Jim Wyatt @jwyattsports
I'll say this on Jared Cook front: I don't think for a second the #Titans will trade him. Will they utilize him more? That's the question |
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