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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
NickZambo wrote:


I understand we are in need of a CB#2 right now. But remember we just signed Demitri Patterson to a multiyear deal. If he comes back healthy, he is your #2, you move back Brown and Skrine to nickle and dime/rotation. Point is, this dude might be a great prospect, but I would focus on drafting Teo anyway you can. Just my $.02



24 Brown, Sheldon DB 5-10 200 33 11 South Carolina
21 Patterson, Dimitri DB 5-10 200 29 6 Tuskegee

Patterson is getting old and is at best a journeyman nickel/dime corner.


no, at best hes a pretty sweet nickel corner.


Gets injured too much and apparently can't/won't play through pain. So what's the answer for all the games he doesn't play?


Yeah how does any of that disprove the fact that at best, he's a pretty sweet nickel corner?


Sweet corners play on the field not stand on the sideline in warm ups.
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Still can't decide if I want a CB or a stud pass rusher. Pass rushers can completely change a game (not saying a CB can't). It's just they can completely devestate a QB every single play.
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I like Banks a lot. Had him in my first and only mock so far. Abeit it was after a trade down in the first. He is tall enough to cover the A.J. Greens of the world. If you can cover Green. Still I'd like to have a tall corner.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like Banks a lot. Had him in my first and only mock so far. Abeit it was after a trade down in the first. He is tall enough to cover the A.J. Greens of the world. If you can cover Green. Still I'd like to have a tall corner.


me too
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yeah id rather take teo at #1 overall than a G in the top 15


I think you are looking at it too black and white. I'd rather take a special MLB than a special LG any day. I'm not that sold on Teo though. Warmack is the best player in the draft compared to their competition. He might be my favorite offensive line prospect since Joe Thomas.
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DawgSoldier wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
NickZambo wrote:


I understand we are in need of a CB#2 right now. But remember we just signed Demitri Patterson to a multiyear deal. If he comes back healthy, he is your #2, you move back Brown and Skrine to nickle and dime/rotation. Point is, this dude might be a great prospect, but I would focus on drafting Teo anyway you can. Just my $.02



24 Brown, Sheldon DB 5-10 200 33 11 South Carolina
21 Patterson, Dimitri DB 5-10 200 29 6 Tuskegee

Patterson is getting old and is at best a journeyman nickel/dime corner.


no, at best hes a pretty sweet nickel corner.


Gets injured too much and apparently can't/won't play through pain. So what's the answer for all the games he doesn't play?


Yeah how does any of that disprove the fact that at best, he's a pretty sweet nickel corner?


Sweet corners play on the field not stand on the sideline in warm ups.


If you are not happy that he is injured, you are not alone. If you are saying he is a bad player when he is healthy, you're alone.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

candyman93 wrote:
Still can't decide if I want a CB or a stud pass rusher. Pass rushers can completely change a game (not saying a CB can't). It's just they can completely devestate a QB every single play.


Pass rush.

But BPA at CB, DE or LB is what i want.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Week 13



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Week 13
no number crunching draft position chart thingy???? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TeHDruiD wrote:
Week 13
no number crunching draft position chart thingy???? Crying or Very sad


haha, I posted it in then realized I made a mistake on the order that I had to fix real quick

With nothing else factored in for next week aside from a win for us, we'd be picking #14/#15. I hope we keep winning, not only for morale and because I'm a fan, but I feel like that puts us in a more desirable draft range for this draft
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeHDruiD wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
Week 13
no number crunching draft position chart thingy???? Crying or Very sad


haha, I posted it in then realized I made a mistake on the order that I had to fix real quick

With nothing else factored in for next week aside from a win for us, we'd be picking #14/#15. I hope we keep winning, not only for morale and because I'm a fan, but I feel like that puts us in a more desirable draft range for this draft


Agree with the winning and Morale and add learning to winn. The #14-15 overall pick thing hmmmmmmmmm Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
Week 13
no number crunching draft position chart thingy???? Crying or Very sad


haha, I posted it in then realized I made a mistake on the order that I had to fix real quick

With nothing else factored in for next week aside from a win for us, we'd be picking #14/#15. I hope we keep winning, not only for morale and because I'm a fan, but I feel like that puts us in a more desirable draft range for this draft


Agree with the winning and Morale and add learning to winn. The #14-15 overall pick thing hmmmmmmmmm Confused


Meh, I'd rather be at 14-15 than 7-9. The fact is the top of the draft is pretty average, so I'd rather the cheaper salary and the greater option of picking any position than being forced to pay a premium and either take a skill position player who isn't worth it or a position you dont want to overpay for.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
Meh, I'd rather be at 14-15 than 7-9. The fact is the top of the draft is pretty average, so I'd rather the cheaper salary and the greater option of picking any position than being forced to pay a premium and either take a skill position player who isn't worth it or a position you dont want to overpay for.


This is where I stand as well. I'm just not sure their is top notch talent in this draft, so I'd like to be in that middle range where all of the options will be
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
NickZambo wrote:


I understand we are in need of a CB#2 right now. But remember we just signed Demitri Patterson to a multiyear deal. If he comes back healthy, he is your #2, you move back Brown and Skrine to nickle and dime/rotation. Point is, this dude might be a great prospect, but I would focus on drafting Teo anyway you can. Just my $.02



24 Brown, Sheldon DB 5-10 200 33 11 South Carolina
21 Patterson, Dimitri DB 5-10 200 29 6 Tuskegee

Patterson is getting old and is at best a journeyman nickel/dime corner.


no, at best hes a pretty sweet nickel corner.


Gets injured too much and apparently can't/won't play through pain. So what's the answer for all the games he doesn't play?


Yeah how does any of that disprove the fact that at best, he's a pretty sweet nickel corner?


Sweet corners play on the field not stand on the sideline in warm ups.


Is it really that hard to understand that when he's injured, he's not at his best?
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Estonianzulu wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
TeHDruiD wrote:
Week 13
no number crunching draft position chart thingy???? Crying or Very sad


haha, I posted it in then realized I made a mistake on the order that I had to fix real quick

With nothing else factored in for next week aside from a win for us, we'd be picking #14/#15. I hope we keep winning, not only for morale and because I'm a fan, but I feel like that puts us in a more desirable draft range for this draft


Agree with the winning and Morale and add learning to winn. The #14-15 overall pick thing hmmmmmmmmm Confused


Meh, I'd rather be at 14-15 than 7-9. The fact is the top of the draft is pretty average, so I'd rather the cheaper salary and the greater option of picking any position than being forced to pay a premium and either take a skill position player who isn't worth it or a position you dont want to overpay for.


You guys have to remember that there is a rookie scale now. This attitude is not as valid as it used to be. Now if you want the top talent, it is better to draft at the top.

BTW I am in no way advocating getting a guard at the top. You can get really good ones lower in the draft. And talent wise we are in no position to draft a guard at the top. We still need to add good players.
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