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I've given up on projecting which QBs will be any good because it's pretty much a crapshoot, but I'll be damned if this QB class is starting to impress me less and less.
Geno hasn't completely soured on me but he isn't helping himself lately.
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JaguarCrazy2832
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yea sadly, i agree with you on this class of QBs, why couldnt it be 2011? 
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | yea sadly, i agree with you on this class of QBs, why couldnt it be 2011? |
We took a QB in 2011.
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| Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | yea sadly, i agree with you on this class of QBs, why couldnt it be 2011? |
We took a QB in 2011. |
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JaguarCrazy2832
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Whoops 
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Adrenaline_Flux wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | yea sadly, i agree with you on this class of QBs, why couldnt it be 2011? |
We took a QB in 2011. |
The thing is though he's awful
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jrry32
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| sadjag wrote: | You know I have been thinking about it alot since Sunday. I would rather trade back for a ransom than pick up Barkely or Geno. This team has so many holes what Position does this team NOT need major help at, LT,MLB an safety are the only ones I can think of. It's sad when you really think about it.
The plan should be too accumulate draft picks and take a flyer on a guy like Aaron Murphy or Landry Jones and then let whoever loses out between them an Gabbert be the backup. |
There's a reason teams trade so much for that pick, franchise QBs are very hard to come by. I don't necessarily disagree with the idea if you think there's another possible franchise QB to be had in the draft. But Landry Jones doesn't strike me as anything close to one.
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Its A Sabotage
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| jrry32 wrote: | | sadjag wrote: | You know I have been thinking about it alot since Sunday. I would rather trade back for a ransom than pick up Barkely or Geno. This team has so many holes what Position does this team NOT need major help at, LT,MLB an safety are the only ones I can think of. It's sad when you really think about it.
The plan should be too accumulate draft picks and take a flyer on a guy like Aaron Murphy or Landry Jones and then let whoever loses out between them an Gabbert be the backup. |
There's a reason teams trade so much for that pick, franchise QBs are very hard to come by. I don't necessarily disagree with the idea if you think there's another possible franchise QB to be had in the draft. But Landry Jones doesn't strike me as anything close to one. |
Would rather trade back, then take my chances with another year of Gabbert + a lot of talent on the DL and playmakers (potentially) in this draft...if all else fails, backup plan is Teddy Bridgewater, Brett Smith, Derek Carr, Fales, in 2014.
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| Its A Sabotage wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | sadjag wrote: | You know I have been thinking about it alot since Sunday. I would rather trade back for a ransom than pick up Barkely or Geno. This team has so many holes what Position does this team NOT need major help at, LT,MLB an safety are the only ones I can think of. It's sad when you really think about it.
The plan should be too accumulate draft picks and take a flyer on a guy like Aaron Murphy or Landry Jones and then let whoever loses out between them an Gabbert be the backup. |
There's a reason teams trade so much for that pick, franchise QBs are very hard to come by. I don't necessarily disagree with the idea if you think there's another possible franchise QB to be had in the draft. But Landry Jones doesn't strike me as anything close to one. |
Would rather trade back, then take my chances with another year of Gabbert + a lot of talent on the DL and playmakers (potentially) in this draft...if all else fails, backup plan is Teddy Bridgewater, Brett Smith, Derek Carr, Fales, in 2014. |
Absolutely. That 2014 class at the top looks better than this 2013 class to me.
If we're going to try one more year of Gabbert though, i'd add that i want to see what happens if we work on building an NFL calibre O-Line for him to play behind. And it would be a darn handy thing to have around for a new QB in 2014 as well. 
And i still would like to take a gamble on a 3rd round QB type.
Alternatively, heck, if for some reason a team like the Bills for example decided Fitzpatrick isn't the future and cut ties with him, i'd even think about giving him a 1-year trial run as a stop-gap to compete with Gabbert. Plenty of other teams could be in that situation as well. It wouldn't surprise me to see a few choices in the 'mediocre to subpar starter' category on the market. Dumpster diving QB tryouts. Not a long-term solution, but it could be alright for a year while we get other aspects of our team in order before we get our QB in 2014. |
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iPwn
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Every single year, people think the next draft class is better for QBs than the current one at this point in the year. Last year it was "Sure, Luck is great, but if Barkley doesn't declare, this is going to be a weak group and next year will be great with Bray, Wilson and everyone else" the year before, the same thing. This time next year, we'll be talking about how weak that class is and how much better the 2015 class looks.
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| iPwn wrote: | | Every single year, people think the next draft class is better for QBs than the current one at this point in the year. Last year it was "Sure, Luck is great, but if Barkley doesn't declare, this is going to be a weak group and next year will be great with Bray, Wilson and everyone else" the year before, the same thing. This time next year, we'll be talking about how weak that class is and how much better the 2015 class looks. |
Not saying next year's is better, but I will take an extra 3 top-3 round picks for another year of Gabbert, to give the next GM a better chance to build the roster...trade out this draft, get an extra 1 and 3 next year and get our new Coach, GM, and QB in 2014.
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Adrenaline_Flux
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I never wavered on thinking the 2011 class was a strong one. Hmmph.
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KhanYouDigIt
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Well if there is one thing you can't question about Gabbert, it's his toughness.
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JaguarCrazy2832
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| KhanYouDigIt wrote: | | Well if there is one thing you can't question about Gabbert, it's his toughness. |
shame that doesnt score TDs
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| Its A Sabotage wrote: | | iPwn wrote: | | Every single year, people think the next draft class is better for QBs than the current one at this point in the year. Last year it was "Sure, Luck is great, but if Barkley doesn't declare, this is going to be a weak group and next year will be great with Bray, Wilson and everyone else" the year before, the same thing. This time next year, we'll be talking about how weak that class is and how much better the 2015 class looks. |
Not saying next year's is better, but I will take an extra 3 top-3 round picks for another year of Gabbert, to give the next GM a better chance to build the roster...trade out this draft, get an extra 1 and 3 next year and get our new Coach, GM, and QB in 2014. |
And if we finish with the 5th pick in 2014 and there's only a couple guys viewed as excellent prospects, who both will go in the top 4?
I'm of the opinion that if you don't have a franchise QB and have the chance to get one, you have to draft him because you might not have that opportunity again. You just have to make sure that you're getting the right guy.
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