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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
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That was not an interception. If the ball touches the ground and moves, its an in-completion.

That being said Teo will be exposed in the 4-3 unless its SAM. He can play zone but man coverage on an NFL TE. No way. Put him on at 3-4 ILB and watch him become a star. He's really no different than Rolando McClain for the Raiders.

ND's toughest opponent was an overrated Big XII team. People need to keep that in mind.


ok genius needs to removed from that user name.


Yea, that was a great INT. The ball is allowed to touch the ground if he maintains possession, the ball didn't move around until he was rolling over and the ball wasn't touching the ground anymore. Thus, a INT.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
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That was not an interception. If the ball touches the ground and moves, its an in-completion.

That being said Teo will be exposed in the 4-3 unless its SAM. He can play zone but man coverage on an NFL TE. No way. Put him on at 3-4 ILB and watch him become a star. He's really no different than Rolando McClain for the Raiders.

ND's toughest opponent was an overrated Big XII team. People need to keep that in mind.


ok genius needs to removed from that user name.


Yea, that was a great INT. The ball is allowed to touch the ground if he maintains possession, the ball didn't move around until he was rolling over and the ball wasn't touching the ground anymore. Thus, a INT.


agreed
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Te'o has a high football IQ, great leadership skills and an Elite level work ethic. You combine those in any player and you will get a great football pick.

I have him as good value from #6 through the first round and think he is going to be that special 14 seasons type of player. I'd be ecstatic to have both him and Butler as my ILB's next year.


Do you think your GM would trade up for him or another prospect?


We won't need to trade up. We are the worst team
In the NFL. I have no clue who gets our GM job next season.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a non DT defender that rates higher than T'eo?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there a non DT defender that rates higher than T'eo?


Nope.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there a non DT defender that rates higher than T'eo?


Nope.


At this point, I see us finishing around picks 6-10. We will probably take Manti or a DB.

I don't care where we put him or Dqwell, it would be a nice pickup for this defense.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
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DawgSoldier wrote:
Is there a non DT defender that rates higher than T'eo?


Nope.


At this point, I see us finishing around picks 6-10. We will probably take Manti or a DB.

I don't care where we put him or Dqwell, it would be a nice pickup for this defense.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: hmmm Reply with quote

I'm beginning to get on Manti's band wagon... Kid is going to be a stud.

that is all

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Is there a non DT defender that rates higher than T'eo?


Nope.


there wasnt one higher than curry either. or aj hawk.

color me skeptical... especially when we have a MLB.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Is there a non DT defender that rates higher than T'eo?


Nope.


there wasnt one higher than curry either. or aj hawk.

color me skeptical... especially when we have a one real good LB.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/20996318/big-board-some-safe-picks-emerge-at-top-but-scouts-still-looking-out-for-no-1

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#6. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame: It seems that every year there is a high profile defender who earns some buzz as a Heisman contender. A few years back it was Ndamukong Suh. A year ago it was LSU's Tyrann Mathieu. This season, it is Te'o. With all due respect to Notre Dame's "skill-position" players, there is no question that the Irish's playmaking middle linebacker is the team's best player and biggest reason for their impressive start. I don't anticipate that Te'o will ultimately be drafted this high but he ranks among the relatively "sure things" of this year's draft class.

Should be available relative to the Browns draft position.
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I don't want Teo with where we are going to be picking. Linebacker is just one of those positions that I'm skeptical of in the top 5 to 10. Considering that our best linebacker also plays the position that Teo is best suited at, I don't like it. Too much risk in it that high. If we were picking in the mid or late teens, I'd like it a lot more.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't want Teo with where we are going to be picking. Linebacker is just one of those positions that I'm skeptical of in the top 5 to 10. Considering that our best linebacker also plays the position that Teo is best suited at, I don't like it. Too much risk in it that high. If we were picking in the mid or late teens, I'd like it a lot more.


there is an inherit assumption in your line of thinking though.

See i don't care if it is Te' Jackson Johnson or Johnson Te'o Jackson.

What ever makes the D better. But also your argument is only cogent in a base set. Having Jackson and Te'o in a nickel isn't a bad thing
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DawgSoldier wrote:
NateDawg wrote:
I don't want Teo with where we are going to be picking. Linebacker is just one of those positions that I'm skeptical of in the top 5 to 10. Considering that our best linebacker also plays the position that Teo is best suited at, I don't like it. Too much risk in it that high. If we were picking in the mid or late teens, I'd like it a lot more.


there is an inherit assumption in your line of thinking though.

See i don't care if it is Te' Jackson Johnson or Johnson Te'o Jackson.

What ever makes the D better. But also your argument is only cogent in a base set. Having Jackson and Te'o in a nickel isn't a bad thing


If you are asking Jackson to cover anyone then yeah it is a bad thing. The only thing D'Qwell Jackson is good for outside of a million tackles 6 yards downfield is a delay blitz when he has a free lane to the QB. Ask him to get around blockers on his own and he'll fail. Most overrated player on the roster. Most overrated linebacker in the NFL.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Is there a non DT defender that rates higher than T'eo?


Nope.


At this point, I see us finishing around picks 6-10. We will probably take Manti or a DB.

I don't care where we put him or Dqwell, it would be a nice pickup for this defense.


I often wonder why Miliner hasn't gotten more play from the forum. He's generally considered the #1 CB in the draft, is a decent size and seems like another great SEC corner prospect
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The thing about Curry was that he was more a freak than anything.

Hawk was a safe pick. He was never great but has been solid most of his career.

Teo is athletic, but that's not what makes him so good. It's his instincts, his toughness and his physical play.

You can see he is the smartest guy on the field. He is always in the right place.

He's great in coverage, which we lack big time in our LB's.

He is always around the ball.

He also seems like a born leader.

Again, I love Dqwell, but i don't care if we had to put Manti as an OLB to start, he is just a playmaker.

I normally wouldn't like to take a LB this high, but this draft is crap.

Outside of Star, who will be a Star, i would take Teo.

Jones and his condition scare me, and frankly, I don't think we will be picking high enough for him anyway. Hell, we may not be picking high enough for Teo.
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