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x0x 
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 14013 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:28 am Post subject: Biggest cultural gap between new movies and old? |
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You can only pick one!
I think no cell-phone presence in movies from the mid 80s and earlier would be my pick.
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tinoynk 
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Cell phones? Really? It's not like modern movies set pre-1990s have people on cell phones. I doubt you'll see any in Django Unchained or Les Mis. Will that bug you? Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
The most tangible thing has gotta be the stuff movies can get away with these days, in terms of language, violence and sexual content. I mean Hitchcock was about as racy and shocking as big mainstream movies got until the 60s, and there's very little graphic violence, no harsh language and only lots and lots of implication and innuendo when it comes to sex. _________________
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DontTazeMeBro 
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:15 am Post subject: |
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One thing that really jumps out to me is how in really old movies the men have these really deep voices where the women have these soft high pitched voices. I'm always wondering if people really sounded like that back then. _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| tinoynk wrote: | Cell phones? Really? It's not like modern movies set pre-1990s have people on cell phones. I doubt you'll see any in Django Unchained or Les Mis. Will that bug you? Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
The most tangible thing has gotta be the stuff movies can get away with these days, in terms of language, violence and sexual content. I mean Hitchcock was about as racy and shocking as big mainstream movies got until the 60s, and there's very little graphic violence, no harsh language and only lots and lots of implication and innuendo when it comes to sex. |
I think he meant "cultural" in the looser term, like closer to pop culture, like the way people dress or whatever, but your way seems good too. Also, period pices are kind of in there own thing.
My biggest difference would be who the main audience of movies is is now, its pretty much all geared towards teens, even the "sexy" movies really are more for like 16 to early 20's.
Im actually in my late 20's so I dont have too much experience with old movies but they seemed a little more mature. Movie companies have pretty much focused on youth nowadays. _________________
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Kiltman 
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Pacing/editing is the biggest difference
You sit an average person under 25 down, in front of older films they will have a tough time with the slow pace....and lose interest.
Attention spans are less and less and with that cuts/edits are much much quicker nowadays.
It will take more people out of a movie then.... "Well why dont they just use their cell phones?"...not saying that was a bad example though
#2 would've been Filming techniques...we have a much more active & dynamic camera style today. It use to be much more stagnant obviously. _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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The scores/music of a lot of older music makes me so sleepy. I hate some of the music in them. _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I agree. The movies of today have a much faster pace than the old time movies. _________________ Mmmm...Sacrelicious! |
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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The six-shooters of old that had endless ammunition and the guns that have limits of today. _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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From a writing standpoint, it's the Keyser Soze reveal. _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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The cheesyness of dramatic moments. _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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It is constantly evolving.
-Terminator 2
-Jurassic Park
-Forrest Gump
-Pulp Fiction
-The Usual Suspects
-Toy Story
-Independence Day
-Titanic
-Saving Private Ryan
-a TON of films in 1999 (the matrix, Star wars, the mummy, austin powers, american beauty, the sixth sense - what a great year that was)
-Gladiator
-Spider-man
-Lord of The Rings
-The Dark Knight
All of those movies exercised incredible influence over the genre. The Matrix, The Dark Knight, Spider-man, and Gladiator probably being the most influential. They changed styles, they changed the way films were shot, the way they were marketed; for Spider & gladiator - jump started dead genres.
The mid to late 1990s saw the rise of 'one liners' almost exclusively due to the success of Terminator, Forrest Gump, and Independence Day. As a result, films in the years at followed were full of them; with big time releases like BATMAN & ROBIN & Armageddon practically having one liners exclusively.
The matrix made slow mo cool. _________________
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| stillersenat wrote: | | The six-shooters of old that had endless ammunition and the guns that have limits of today. |
It's undoubtedly cooler looking putting in a magazine clip instead of fumbling over 6 individual bullets. _________________
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| DontTazeMeBro wrote: | | One thing that really jumps out to me is how in really old movies the men have these really deep voices where the women have these soft high pitched voices. I'm always wondering if people really sounded like that back then. |
Yeah, I've always wondered about this too. In the old movies, the men sound like... men. You know? I think speech conventions change very rapidly compared to other cultural artifacts. Think about how the way people talk has changed just since the 90s. I think people genuinely spoke in a more enunciated fashion. _________________
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Gore.
Older movies would show a scream and a splatter of blood. Nowadays, you see all sorts of disgusting things. _________________
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x0x 
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 14013 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| bucsfan333 wrote: | Gore.
Older movies would show a scream and a splatter of blood. Nowadays, you see all sorts of disgusting things. |
The splatter films of the 80s were a ton more gory than most of the films today.
CGI blood effects are comical.
The prosthetics and make-up used in the 80s is superior.
The other thing is how many 80s gore flicks were banned in numerous countries. _________________ Legends Never Die. They Breathe Through The New Generation.
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