Wow Hurney is gone

[DoLFaN]

this is a good move props to cam newton for speaking out,
the coaches are using him the wrong way

[rjkilla]

Honestly all the coaches needed to do was scrap the read option during the bye and maybe nobody has to lose their jobs. Keep running the offense east to west instead of north to south and everybody's gone. One crappy scheme ruins everything
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[iknowcool]

Just listened to Cam's press conference for the first time.

So now we've got 3 guys (Johnson, Newton, Williams) who have essentially questioned our coaches and when arguably the classiest player on the team does it, something must be open. And it seems to be directed at Chud's refusal to run the ball. Still though, Johnson especially needs to learn to just keep everything in house. The coaches have lost complete control of this team, from the Smith incident to Johnson's Twitter explosion to the frustration of Williams and Newton. We can't have all of this going publicly and it just feels like we're in complete disarray.

Unfortunately for Rivera, while I'm not close to being his biggest fan and thinks he's done a horrific job, I don't see how he can turn it around. The players are no longer believing in the system and the GM was just fired. It'd take a miracle for him to keep his job and about the only way possible is for Chud to get fired unless Chud has an epiphany and remembers to run the football. And I don't mean just zone read option.

[OneBadCat]

I don't still dont see how Cam called out the coaching staff. "Same script, same director" was referring to the outcome of the game as if it was a movie. He wasn't bashing his coordinators.

[iknowcool]

[Moody]

Did anyone really think the team came out looking any different after the bye? After all their proclaimed "soul searching", they didn't look like they had figured anything out.

I didn't think Cam looked bad, he missed a few throws but he really put the team on his back in the drives they did have. Receivers were dropping passes (Murphy on 3rd and long, Cam put it on the money) and Offensive line making life harder with two awful false starts (you're at home!!). If anything this offense has too much focus on Newton.


They offense just doesn't look like they're mentally in the game. The defense is hit and miss, literally.

[Panthers11]

[fraziafraze07]

Players need to execute better. Period. But I blame the coaches for this team's struggles.

I've never seen a team continually be marginally worse than their opponents, regardless of who they are playing. One of the top two teams in the league. Sure, we can give them a hell of a game that requires some pretty spectacular things to happen inside of two minutes for them to win the game. A fairly poor Bucs team (albeit a division rival, and one who isn't terrible) or a schizophrenic Dallas team, sure we'll lose close ones to them to. Outside of the Giants game, we've been very close. And that is an indication that there is a coaching problem. We have the talent, but it's not being utilized properly.

The funny thing is, think about if we pull these close games out. Let's for arguments sake say that we didn't play well enough to win the Bucs game, and we weren't all that close in terms of final drives during the Dallas game, so keep those as losses. But we could've beat Atlanta (convert 4th and 1 or stop them from getting a FG) and Seattle (Cam completes that 4th and goal for a TD) had we just closed out. How different is the conversation if we win those and are 3-3?

Anyways, the main problem, as has been pointed out ad nauseum, is the offensive gameplan.

Not only are they not running enough, but they are running out of the read-option too much (read: exclusively). The offense needs to line up with Cam under center and hand the ball off to the backs. DeAngelo's best attribute is his vision. Allow him to pick the hole he wants to hit, dictate where he himself wants to run.

The read option has the RBs going sideways to start the play and takes away their choice of where to run. When the offensive line doesn't do their job or Cam doesn't make the right read, the option-read fails miserably. Run the ball conventionally, and those problems are mitigated to a degree.

You can still mix the option read in on occasion. The key is to have variety. I'd also have more short to intermediate options for Cam passing the ball. Yes, Cam is great at throwing downfield, but when that's all we do, the defense can key on that.
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[johnydtarheel]

[johnydtarheel]

Still dont see how timing is good on this. We can't talk with employees of other teams until after the season and get permission.
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Thanks CK

[boondock]

[fretgod99]

[boondock]

[OneBadCat]

[Moody]