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johnydtarheel
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| Quote: | Steve Reed @SteveReedAP
To be clear, Brandon Beane is handling day-to-day duties in football operations for the Panthers. Not named GM. |
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TROJANPANTHER
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| UKpantherfan wrote: | Stunning.
I figured there'd be changes if we finished the season like we started it.
I'm curious about three fairly simple questions though:
1) Why should our team's problems mean that it's specifically the GM who has to go rather than a coach, player or someone else?
Is it Hurney's fault that Cam is playing so badly? Is it his fault that the offensive play calling is so bad? I understand that Hurney had a big impact on the crazy contracts we've signed recently and I understand his impact on our drafting but regardless of GM we're stuck with the same squad for the rest of the season and it's not like we're going restructure dozens of contracts as soon as the new GM steps through the door.
2) Why now? i.e. what do they hope to achieve by making this chnge at this particular time and not when we had a bye week or at the end of the season?
3) What are they hoping that the new GM can do with what little of the season that will be left by the time they get someone new in?
Someone help me understand this because right now it seems like either too little to late, the right guy (but not the only guy) at the wrong time, or the right move too early. |
They might bring in someone while the season is still going so they can essentially audition the roster and coaches and decide who they're going to keep/release.
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johnydtarheel
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| TROJANPANTHER wrote: | | UKpantherfan wrote: | Stunning.
I figured there'd be changes if we finished the season like we started it.
I'm curious about three fairly simple questions though:
1) Why should our team's problems mean that it's specifically the GM who has to go rather than a coach, player or someone else?
Is it Hurney's fault that Cam is playing so badly? Is it his fault that the offensive play calling is so bad? I understand that Hurney had a big impact on the crazy contracts we've signed recently and I understand his impact on our drafting but regardless of GM we're stuck with the same squad for the rest of the season and it's not like we're going restructure dozens of contracts as soon as the new GM steps through the door.
2) Why now? i.e. what do they hope to achieve by making this chnge at this particular time and not when we had a bye week or at the end of the season?
3) What are they hoping that the new GM can do with what little of the season that will be left by the time they get someone new in?
Someone help me understand this because right now it seems like either too little to late, the right guy (but not the only guy) at the wrong time, or the right move too early. |
They might bring in someone while the season is still going so they can essentially audition the roster and coaches and decide who they're going to keep/release. |
That will be tough to do all the good ones have a job right now and another team want let you interview there guys till end of season
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Zithers
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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so
gamble and beason news supposedly coming (assuming it is IR)
hurney fired which doesn't improve the team whatsoever in mid-season
dwill, kalil, cam, and cj complaining about the coaches
are we officially the biggest joke in the NFL? we're at least in the running with the jets.
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johnydtarheel
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Joe Person @josephperson
Rivera: "Changes are coming." Said firing an assistant coach could be a possibility. |
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TROJANPANTHER
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| johnydtarheel wrote: | | Quote: | Joe Person @josephperson
Rivera: "Changes are coming." Said firing an assistant coach could be a possibility. |
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Add head coach to the list of possibilities come the end of the season, Mr. Rivera.
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Joe Person @josephperson
"I think we someone down there to step up and take hold ... step up and say enough is enough," -- Hurney of the locker room environment.
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Hurney said "leadership in locker rooms" is probably the most underrated part of the league because talent level is so even. ..."
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"...And we have people who are capable of it."
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literally just did the victor cruz dance...alright so i think the timing is perfect. after playing so poorly on offense coming off the bye it was clear this team has no sense of urgency or pride in their performance. this sends a message through the whole organization that you are now auditioning for your job. put your best foot forward and we might find a spot for you next year. keep putting forth the pathetic effort we see every week and you'll be unemployed. as far as a replacement. no thanks to becoming the carolina chargers. i'd like to look at houston, pitt, 9ers, giants, pats, or packers front office.
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fretgod99
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I don't have a problem with firing Hurney, but the timing does seem a little curious to me.
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Impulser12000
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i dont know why aj smith has been mentioned. he's terrible. their drafts have been bad and theres a reason charger fans want to clean house with smith and turner gone. sooooo def no.
this was a shocker esp with the timing but i hope they look to one of consistently good teams and poach someone from them.
i wonder what other changes are forthcoming
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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A major overhaul is coming soon, and I think a lot of longtime Panthers are about to see the door.
These are who I think are gonna get the axe:
Rivera & Co.
Deangelo Williams (Unless GM wanted to get a coach that actually values the running game)
Chris Gamble
Jordan Gross
Those are the big names. I think some other Players like Nakamura, Hardy, Gettis, and Tolbert could be on the chopping block as well.
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| johnydtarheel wrote: | | Quote: | Joe Person @josephperson
Rivera: "Changes are coming." Said firing an assistant coach could be a possibility. |
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Can Rivera fire himself? |
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OneBadCat
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Gamble does nothing but keep his mouth shut and do his job. He needs to stay. Gross needs to restructure or get out, he's so overrated.
Beason needs to stay. He is a field general and the potential of him and Keuchly is way too high to give up on. |
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iknowcool
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Maybe I'm reading too much into it but Johnson pretty much just said who he truly feels is the issue with the team.
http://chirb.it/eIGPGK |
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boondock
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I will be curious to see how Rivera and Co. change now that Hurney is out of the picture. Maybe they turn it up a notch, in order to keep their jobs.
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