Can We Contend With The QBs On This Roster?

[stchamp98]

1. Remember Kolb against the Vikings? Remember Kolb against the Ravens? The Steelers? The Seahawks? Let's not play the "Look at this game" card. It's not valid in terms of these two guys.
2. While Kolb's pass attempt:interception ratio is just shy of double what Skelton's is, an incredibly high mark, it's negated by the fact that Kolb's fumble:pass attempt ration is nearly half of what Skelton's is. Frankly, I don't care if it's an interception or a fumble. All turnovers are equal in my eyes.

I think that speaks for itself. I'd also add that saying Kolb is responsible for Andre Roberts becoming "relevant" is extremely careless, as there's simply nothing to back it up. Skelton just hit Andre for 7 catches, 100 yards and a TD last Sunday too mind you.
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[JohnnyV]

[stchamp98]

I asked if there was a tangible difference between 2011 Skelton and 2011 Kolb. The trade was made in 2011, that season needs to be weighed in terms of judging the trade.

Judging 5 starts in 2012, with a 3-2 record, isn't worth much.
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[JohnnyV]

[stchamp98]

I don't think our playoff chances are much different with Kolb than they are with Skelton personally. Maybe he gives us a little better chance but I believe it's measurable which is really where the problem lies. We gave up a starting CB, a 2nd round pick and a truck load of cash to add a guy who's only measurably better than a kid from Fordham we picked up in the 5th round 3 years ago. The whole point of making the trade for Kolb was to get a guy who was clearly better than what we already had (Which, at that time, was Skelton and Hall). Kolb hasn't been that guy and that's really where we've been burned. If we didn't make that trade we might be starting a quarterback, John Skelton, who is a bit worse than Kevin Kolb but we'd also likely have a better offensive line and/or a better defense. With a more consistent running game and a better, more consistent run defense I think we're probably 6-1 right now. Our record with Kolb in the game (Even including the 1 drive against Seattle) is 4-2 and honestly I don't think he wins us the Vikings game.That's kind of where I'm at.

The Kolb trade is really the biggest hinderance to this franchise right now IMHO, it simply cost us too much. We paid a Pro Bowl quarterback price and got average play in return.
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[#1CARDSFAN]

[#1CARDSFAN]

For arguments sake the team before the last 3 games was 11-2 in their last 13 games. So yeah they can contend with either QB. they proved that. I still think that Kolb is the only chance to truly contend only based on my opinion.

[stchamp98]

[SFaithful97]

I believe that Kevin Kolb is good enough to lead a team to the playoffs and even experience some success there, but I do not believe that team is what the Cardinals are currently fielding. The Cardinals need to surround him with what the 49ers spent years trying to acquire for Alex Smith, a very good OL, and a running game that can take the pressure off of him. Much like Smith, Kolb is not the type of QB who can carry a one dimensional offense for a season (or full game for that matter).

The most important thing for the Cardinals has to be addressing their terrible OL. I think Kolb (and the running game) will benefit greatly from better play in the trenches.
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[#1CARDSFAN]

[#1CARDSFAN]

[stchamp98]

"I think Kolb (and the running game) will benefit greatly from better play in the trenches."

I disagree. A better offensive line isn't going to vastly improve Kevin Kolb's play as his biggest downfall is a lack of awareness inside the pocket. A better pocket doesn't make a player like Kolb better inside the pocket. That's something Kolb needs to work through himself, nothing we can do personnel wise will fix that for him.
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[LuckyNumber11]

[stchamp98]

[SFaithful97]