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canadaluvsdalla


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good game guys. Even though we won I'm still depressed we played pretty bad
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toughguy77 wrote:
So if Rivera doesn't win more than 6 games this year is he gone?


I don't think he's in any danger right now. If we finished 1-15 or 2-14, then yeah, he'd probably be shown the door, but aside from complete disaster, he's safe. He's a 1-1 coach plus 4 close games this year. He gets the 3rd year at least, no doubt in my mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately Rivera probably is safe.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Toughguy77 wrote:
We legit don't even have a running game we can resort to


We do, but Chud ruins it.


He destroys it. I do not think he knows how to competently incorporate run plays into the game plan without them being from the read option.

I would like to see some stats regarding the amount of plays we run from the shotgun vs under the center.
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I think at this point the reason they won't get more basic with the run is that Chud is either way way way too stubborn or there is an issue with personnel and they don't have faith in the guys to run it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Williams had TWO carries.

Excluding Newton's rushing yards, we had 46 rushing yards on 15 attempts.

Zone read option, as I've said in the past, isn't bad. It's the fact we use it in short yardage situations and way too much. Run more under center, give the back the ability to dictate where he's going and give the OL more certainty in where they should be blocking.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canadaluvsdalla wrote:
Good game guys. Even though we won I'm still depressed we played pretty bad


You too, man.

Just not a lot of positives to take away from that game. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Williams is ticked off on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DeAngeloRB/with_replies

Is lashing out at the fact he only got two carries, stating the obvious in how we're oddly enough paying him $43 million to do nothing, etc. And he made it pretty obvious that he'd be saying even more if it wasn't for the fact he has to "censor" himself in a way.

Players are now not believing in the offensive philosophy. Things are going to only get worse, sadly.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Pep 4 Step wrote:
canadaluvsdalla wrote:
Good game guys. Even though we won I'm still depressed we played pretty bad


You too, man.

Just not a lot of positives to take away from that game. Confused


Byron Bell played a good game at RG, Garry Williams was solid at RT. Thats about it.


And about rushing yards, its even worse than it seems, because Stewart had about 25 on that one dive.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iknowcool wrote:
Williams is ticked off on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DeAngeloRB/with_replies

Is lashing out at the fact he only got two carries, stating the obvious in how we're oddly enough paying him $43 million to do nothing, etc. And he made it pretty obvious that he'd be saying even more if it wasn't for the fact he has to "censor" himself in a way.

Players are now not believing in the offensive philosophy. Things are going to only get worse, sadly.


If he wants more carries, he should try running for more than 3.6 per carry.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iknowcool wrote:
Williams is ticked off on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DeAngeloRB/with_replies

Is lashing out at the fact he only got two carries, stating the obvious in how we're oddly enough paying him $43 million to do nothing, etc. And he made it pretty obvious that he'd be saying even more if it wasn't for the fact he has to "censor" himself in a way.

Players are now not believing in the offensive philosophy. Things are going to only get worse, sadly.


2 Carries is ridiculous but in all honesty Deangelo has underperformed when given the football this year. They might be considering a trade for him, and if he's going to start lashing out it might actually happen.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james.mcmurry13 wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Williams is ticked off on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DeAngeloRB/with_replies

Is lashing out at the fact he only got two carries, stating the obvious in how we're oddly enough paying him $43 million to do nothing, etc. And he made it pretty obvious that he'd be saying even more if it wasn't for the fact he has to "censor" himself in a way.

Players are now not believing in the offensive philosophy. Things are going to only get worse, sadly.


If he wants more carries, he should try running for more than 3.6 per carry.


While I agree, the type of runs with the shotgun ruin him.
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OneBadCat wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Williams is ticked off on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DeAngeloRB/with_replies

Is lashing out at the fact he only got two carries, stating the obvious in how we're oddly enough paying him $43 million to do nothing, etc. And he made it pretty obvious that he'd be saying even more if it wasn't for the fact he has to "censor" himself in a way.

Players are now not believing in the offensive philosophy. Things are going to only get worse, sadly.


2 Carries is ridiculous but in all honesty Deangelo has underperformed when given the football this year. They might be considering a trade for him, and if he's going to start lashing out it might actually happen.


Nobody will trade for him. He'll get cut, then someone will sign him in the middle of camp to a 1 year deal.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iknowcool wrote:
Williams is ticked off on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DeAngeloRB/with_replies

Is lashing out at the fact he only got two carries, stating the obvious in how we're oddly enough paying him $43 million to do nothing, etc. And he made it pretty obvious that he'd be saying even more if it wasn't for the fact he has to "censor" himself in a way.

Players are now not believing in the offensive philosophy. Things are going to only get worse, sadly.


While I feel he should shut his mouth and do whatever the teams asks him to do (43 million should buy at least that much) I am glad he is saying it. Its clear the game plan isnt working. We arent built to run a pass heavy offense. Rivera/Chud are trying to squeeze a square peg into a round hole. We are built to run. At the very least, we should be running a balanced attack. Not this pass heavy mess we are running. Lets get back to being the best running game in the league! We have the pieces. Hand the ball off early and often. Lets wear some defenses down!
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james.mcmurry13 wrote:
OneBadCat wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Williams is ticked off on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/DeAngeloRB/with_replies

Is lashing out at the fact he only got two carries, stating the obvious in how we're oddly enough paying him $43 million to do nothing, etc. And he made it pretty obvious that he'd be saying even more if it wasn't for the fact he has to "censor" himself in a way.

Players are now not believing in the offensive philosophy. Things are going to only get worse, sadly.


2 Carries is ridiculous but in all honesty Deangelo has underperformed when given the football this year. They might be considering a trade for him, and if he's going to start lashing out it might actually happen.


Nobody will trade for him. He'll get cut, then someone will sign him in the middle of camp to a 1 year deal.


Yep, then he'll go on to rush for 2,500 yds and 16 TD's in a season and be hailed the greatest of all time.
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