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KamTrus20


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If we can't get Moore or Milliner, who would you take instead?


In the 43 Werner then Oakfer
In the 34 Werner then Mingo


Werner is a mid-late 1st rounder and Okafor is a 2nd round talent who may even go later. Funny you never used his name until you saw his big bowl game. Typical stat line scouting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If we can't get Moore or Milliner, who would you take instead?


In the 43 Werner then Oakfer
In the 34 Werner then Mingo


Werner is a mid-late 1st rounder and Okafor is a 2nd round talent who may even go later. Funny you never used his name until you saw his big bowl game. Typical stat line scouting.


That's funny...from everything I've read and seen, Werner is rated as the top, or one of the top rated DE's in this draft.

But....I'll take Kam's word on it. You know more than them, and most certainly Jordan will turn out to be better.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big poppa pump wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If we can't get Moore or Milliner, who would you take instead?


In the 43 Werner then Oakfer
In the 34 Werner then Mingo


Werner is a mid-late 1st rounder and Okafor is a 2nd round talent who may even go later. Funny you never used his name until you saw his big bowl game. Typical stat line scouting.


That's funny...from everything I've read and seen, Werner is rated as the top, or one of the top rated DE's in this draft.

But....I'll take Kam's word on it. You know more than them, and most certainly Jordan will turn out to be better.... Rolling Eyes


He is rated at the top in Janurary by the media who is wrong every year, not just sometimes, every single year.

I'm not telling you to take my word for it. How about you watch the guy and form an opinion of your own not basedon stats or what the media tells you is right. I bet you'd have a different opinion. I just hope you are not trying to take DS's word because his track record is laughable at best.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If we can't get Moore or Milliner, who would you take instead?


In the 43 Werner then Oakfer
In the 34 Werner then Mingo


Werner is a mid-late 1st rounder and Okafor is a 2nd round talent who may even go later. Funny you never used his name until you saw his big bowl game. Typical stat line scouting.


Actually i ranked him 3rd in my DE 3rd before the bowl game. So gets your facts straight.

Typical knee JERK reaction by Kam
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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big poppa pump wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If we can't get Moore or Milliner, who would you take instead?


In the 43 Werner then Oakfer
In the 34 Werner then Mingo


Werner is a mid-late 1st rounder and Okafor is a 2nd round talent who may even go later. Funny you never used his name until you saw his big bowl game. Typical stat line scouting.


That's funny...from everything I've read and seen, Werner is rated as the top, or one of the top rated DE's in this draft.

But....I'll take Kam's word on it. You know more than them, and most certainly Jordan will turn out to be better.... Rolling Eyes


He is rated at the top in Janurary by the media who is wrong every year, not just sometimes, every single year.


I don't sit there with the rewind button in my hand, scrutinizing every single play. I have seen enough college football, however, to formulate an opinion. I won't take anyone's word about a player, no matter who they are.

I think Moore, Werner, and Jordan SHOULD all have solid careers from what I have seen. It doesn't mean they will. It will depend on what team takes them, how they are coached, and most importantly, how hard they work. You can't factor that in by just looking at tape.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
big poppa pump wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
If we can't get Moore or Milliner, who would you take instead?


In the 43 Werner then Oakfer
In the 34 Werner then Mingo


Werner is a mid-late 1st rounder and Okafor is a 2nd round talent who may even go later. Funny you never used his name until you saw his big bowl game. Typical stat line scouting.


That's funny...from everything I've read and seen, Werner is rated as the top, or one of the top rated DE's in this draft.

But....I'll take Kam's word on it. You know more than them, and most certainly Jordan will turn out to be better.... Rolling Eyes


He is rated at the top in Janurary by the media who is wrong every year, not just sometimes, every single year.

I'm not telling you to take my word for it. How about you watch the guy and form an opinion of your own not basedon stats or what the media tells you is right. I bet you'd have a different opinion. I just hope you are not trying to take DS's word because his track record is laughable at best.
Better than yours by a country mile.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahahaah keep pretending little boy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
hahahaah keep pretending little boy


ah name calling. the artifice of a deep mind. Rolling Eyes
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I have watched college football for several decades. I try to predict who will be good in the NFL too.

So what I've learned is that I'm wrong a great deal, and so are the guys who get paid to make the decision for NFL teams. Apparently that maybe 10-15% success rate difference is what separates us from them.

I will say this, there is really no difference at all between the success rate of the collective amateurs and the "pro draft website experts". Since many of us use their bad info to form our own bad opinions.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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KamTrus20 wrote:
hahahaah keep pretending little boy


ah name calling. the artifice of a deep mind. Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
hahahaah keep pretending little boy


ah name calling. the artifice of a deep mind. Rolling Eyes




Not even worth my time bro.

I say little boy because its obvious he gets all his opinions and rankings on what works and what doesn't on madden as well as the stat sheets.
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KamTrus20 wrote:
buno67 wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
hahahaah keep pretending little boy


ah name calling. the artifice of a deep mind. Rolling Eyes




Not even worth my time bro.

I say little boy because its obvious he gets all his opinions and rankings on what works and what doesn't on madden as well as the stat sheets.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kam thank you for calling Werner out the way I have felt. He put up nice #s vs garbage competition.
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Kam thank you for calling Werner out the way I have felt. He put up nice #s vs garbage competition.


and Jogs more than a marathon runner.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kam thank you for calling Werner out the way I have felt. He put up nice #s vs garbage competition.


Same here.

Kam is typically ahead of of the game when it comes to college names. He's had a DE lost for about a year now. Also threw out Glennons name before all others on this board and the media.
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