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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do some research and you'll find Willis runs a 4.51 40 and Teo runs a 4.54. Willis is so much faster and athletic. Give me a break.


Just out of interest, I read a piece by Pat Kirwan recently written about his time as a Jets scout. He stated that to try and judge acurately the speed on field in uniform of an NFL player they would take the 40 time and compare with the short shuttle sprint times of college players, basically if the shuttle was a lot faster than the sprint the guy would most probably have 'football speed' and if the 40 time was little different from the shuttle time the guy would most probably have 'track speed'.

Can't find the link for it but basically, don't judge a players speed and athletic prowess off purely a 40 time Wink


See link below:

http://thehuddlereport.com/Free/DraftTools/PKsp.shtml
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigMike1b wrote:
With regards to possible compensatory picks, the only free agents that we had that signed elsewhere was Michael Bush and Jason Campbell. Bush had a multi-year deal and Campbell just a 1-year deal. Bush would net us a pick, unfortunately, we signed Mike Breisel to a more expensive deal so that should cancel that out. I'm pretty sure we won't land a pick for losing Campbell either since we signed multiple players to 1-year deals as well.

You are right!
No comp picks this year...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burgesskills wrote:
Do some research and you'll find Willis runs a 4.51 40 and Teo runs a 4.54. Willis is so much faster and athletic. Give me a break.


Question You realize that .03 in the quarter mile is not even half a step? It's almost negligible.
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NickButera wrote:
Burgesskills wrote:
Do some research and you'll find Willis runs a 4.51 40 and Teo runs a 4.54. Willis is so much faster and athletic. Give me a break.


Question You realize that .03 in the quarter mile is not even half a step? It's almost negligible.


I'm pretty sure that's what he meant as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
NickButera wrote:
Burgesskills wrote:
Do some research and you'll find Willis runs a 4.51 40 and Teo runs a 4.54. Willis is so much faster and athletic. Give me a break.


Question You realize that .03 in the quarter mile is not even half a step? It's almost negligible.


I'm pretty sure that's what he meant as well.


Yeah. NB, you need to re-calibrate your sarcasm detector. And I'd put down money on Willis still being faster and more athletic than Manti Te'o. Regardless, it'd be absolutely retarded for us to pick Te'o barring a trade down to around pick 20 at the soonest.
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No 2nd round pick, and no 5th round pick with only 5 picks it'll be another rough draft.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No 2nd round pick, and no 5th round pick with only 5 picks it'll be another rough draft.

Is it confirmed that the Raiders lost a 5th for Curry?
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Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ch8878 wrote:
No 2nd round pick, and no 5th round pick with only 5 picks it'll be another rough draft.


They can add picks.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
No 2nd round pick, and no 5th round pick with only 5 picks it'll be another rough draft.


They can add picks.


I think they will. Reggie will trade back in the 1st to get a 2nd rounder. Too many needs with so little picks.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
No 2nd round pick, and no 5th round pick with only 5 picks it'll be another rough draft.

Is it confirmed that the Raiders lost a 5th for Curry?


No word as of yet. I believe that the deal for Curry was a 2012 7th round pick, and a conditional 5th/6th round pick in 2013. Not sure what the condition is, but I'm sure he won't reach whatever he needs to do since he had a late start to the season. I'll try looking for the link.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigMike1b wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
No 2nd round pick, and no 5th round pick with only 5 picks it'll be another rough draft.

Is it confirmed that the Raiders lost a 5th for Curry?


No word as of yet. I believe that the deal for Curry was a 2012 7th round pick, and a conditional 5th/6th round pick in 2013. Not sure what the condition is, but I'm sure he won't reach whatever he needs to do since he had a late start to the season. I'll try looking for the link.


I think it's pretty safe to assume the Raiders will have their 2013 5th, although it is noteworthy as NB pointed out earlier this year.
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NickButera wrote:
Burgesskills wrote:
Do some research and you'll find Willis runs a 4.51 40 and Teo runs a 4.54. Willis is so much faster and athletic. Give me a break.


You realize that .03 in the quarter mile is not even half a step? It's almost negligible.


I'm pretty sure that's what he meant as well.


I'm glad somebody picked up on that. I was being sarcastic.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up to date draft order per NFL.com:

1) Kansas City
2) Jacksonville
3) Cleveland
4) Carolina
5) Philadelphia
6) Oakland
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn! I hope we pick top 5!

Also, I wish we could have drafted Colin Kaepernick
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaiderX wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
No 2nd round pick, and no 5th round pick with only 5 picks it'll be another rough draft.


They can add picks.


I think they will. Reggie will trade back in the 1st to get a 2nd rounder. Too many needs with so little picks.


I'm guessing they will have 10 picks when the draft is said and done.
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