| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
killdawabbit
Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 5580
Location: Somewhere you're not.
|
 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: |
 |
|
|
| Nabbs4u wrote: | | killdawabbit wrote: | | Nabbs4u wrote: | | Phire wrote: | People said Foles wouldn't last a quarter behind our line.
A game and a half and he's still standing. He isn't getting destroyed at the same rate Vick was either. |
People also said having a true pocket passer like Nick with a quick release and size to throw balls accurately over the Oline would make this offense Flourish. Have you seen that in the last 6 QT's of play? I haven't for the most part and neither has the score board. Or are Foles 6 sacks, 4 FB and 3 INT in that time period acceptable in 6 QT's of play? Looks awfully similar to me or is that just going to be chalked up to being a Rookie as well. |
Actually, yes. Peyton Manning sucked as a rookie. Most (not all) QBs do. That doesn't mean Foles will ever amount to anything, but less than 2 full games of experience is nothing to completely judge on.
And having a pocket passer like Nick with a quick release and the size and arm to throw accurately over the line would make this offense much better. If the OLine was playing anything near a decent level. If Nick was a more experienced QB (maybe). |
That's been my point for weeks though Wabbit for everyone who thought Nick could make a drastic difference with this current line situation. When in fact most any QB (Not just Vick as many seem to have thought) would have issues when constantly being hit, sacked ,knocked down, hurried and harassed pretty much at will. Foles was never going to be any different had he started a month ago in the W/L column as others suggested. I'm not saying Foles can never be good ,succeed in the NFL or that it is impossible to have some kind of success this season. Just that maybe just maybe Vick wasn't the major problem he was made out to be from the jump. |
No. Vick was/is an issue in his own right. Even in the beginning of the season (when we still had 4/5 of an OLine) he was running into sacks, holding the ball too long, and missing wide open receivers. He contributed to the issues in his own way. The big difference is with Foles it is somewhat (though not totally) excuseable from the QB end. Vick has been a pro too long to make those kinds of mistakes so consistantly and still be considered a viable "franchise" guy.
Of course the playcalling has been another contributer as well.
It certainly was never just Vick, but he wasn't helping either.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Rock_#5
Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 5596
Location: Chicago-Go Bulls!
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
If we get hot in the end and finish 8-8, 7-9, or even 6-10 I'll be extremely pissed.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kiltman
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 11021
Location: Flipadelphia
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Rock_#5 wrote: | | If we get hot in the end and finish 8-8, 7-9, or even 6-10 I'll be extremely pissed. |
Yea getting a top pick and really ensuring we completely clean house are the only things that bring me peace about this franchise right now. There is zero point in winning anymore games...they just hurt us, I'll take a win week 17 though if it means we keep the Giants from the playoffs.
I don't know, I'm getting a sick pleasure at seeing the frailty of this team as the layers get peeled back....I want to see who quits and who doesn't. And whoever does quit will be shown the door right after the coaches.
If we go 3-13 who knows, maybe Howie gets fired and we get the aesthetic overhaul that we need.... as so many bad teams have done when they start new eras nowadays. I know it's minor in the grand scheme of things, but if not now then when.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BBIB
Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 7411
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Phire wrote: | People said Foles wouldn't last a quarter behind our line.
A game and a half and he's still standing. He isn't getting destroyed at the same rate Vick was either. |
LOL is that some kind of accomplishment?
Lasting 6 quarters without getting hurt means he's great? Ignore the 1 TD to 4 turnovers? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Phire
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 39201
Location: #championchip 2012 HoF
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| BBIB wrote: | | Phire wrote: | People said Foles wouldn't last a quarter behind our line.
A game and a half and he's still standing. He isn't getting destroyed at the same rate Vick was either. |
LOL is that some kind of accomplishment?
Lasting 6 quarters without getting hurt means he's great? Ignore the 1 TD to 4 turnovers? |
You drunk bro?
_________________
 | theuntouchable wrote: | | Think about this phire. I am the real chow. |
| stevec0008 wrote: | | I read all the time, and laugh, a lot. Mostly at oland. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MaclinandMCcoy
Joined: 07 Apr 2010
Posts: 2653
Location: Columbia, SC GO COCKS!
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
Not gonna lie, I would be ecstatic if we somehow finished 8-8.
I don't know why....like I know we suck, I know we won't win but for some reason I'm still mad when we lose.
Probably cause I really hate that NFLfani'msuchadoucher guy who kept posting random ish about the eagles (dude who was like FIRE THE REPORTER WHO ACCIDENTLY SAID EAGLES INSTEAD OF CARDINALS I'M A MORON)
_________________
| babyatemydingo wrote: |
I may have responded with sarcasm, but I attempted to do it as eloquently as possible. If I need to do it in crayon or finger paint let me know.
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rock_#5
Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 5596
Location: Chicago-Go Bulls!
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:12 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Kiltman wrote: | | Rock_#5 wrote: | | If we get hot in the end and finish 8-8, 7-9, or even 6-10 I'll be extremely pissed. |
Yea getting a top pick and really ensuring we completely clean house are the only things that bring me peace about this franchise right now. There is zero point in winning anymore games...they just hurt us, I'll take a win week 17 though if it means we keep the Giants from the playoffs.
I don't know, I'm getting a sick pleasure at seeing the frailty of this team as the layers get peeled back....I want to see who quits and who doesn't. And whoever does quit will be shown the door right after the coaches.
If we go 3-13 who knows, maybe Howie gets fired and we get the aesthetic overhaul that we need.... as so many bad teams have done when they start new eras nowadays. I know it's minor in the grand scheme of things, but if not now then when. |
I feel you bud, I just want us not be picking in the late teens or early twenties and still end up missing the playoffs. I hate it when we do that.
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ninjapirate
Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 28402
Location: Vegas
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
This team is on a whole new level of bad. It makes 2005 look like a good time.
_________________
| UKEaglesFan wrote: | | Searching for Brooklyn Decker Camel on a work laptop - not the smartest thing I've ever done! |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Eagles_808
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Posts: 24775
Location: Torrance, CA
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Rock_#5 wrote: | | If we get hot in the end and finish 8-8, 7-9, or even 6-10 I'll be extremely pissed. |
No offense, but don't hold your breath. 
_________________
insignia by McNabbNo5 | #championCHIP | #Sparkles |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Blahman88
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 21774
Location: DA BRITUSH IZLES
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Eagles_808 wrote: | | Rock_#5 wrote: | | If we get hot in the end and finish 8-8, 7-9, or even 6-10 I'll be extremely pissed. |
No offense, but don't hold your breath. |
No offence.....
Yeah just that, No Offence
_________________
^Officially endorsed by Jon Dorenbos
| RandyMossIsBoss wrote: | | I would do the same but I know better then to start beef with the EBB. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BBIB
Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 7411
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Rock_#5 wrote: | | If we get hot in the end and finish 8-8, 7-9, or even 6-10 I'll be extremely pissed. |
If Foles finishes the season you don't have to worry about that. At max you finish with one more win this season
You guys will just miss out on Geno Smith and probably get to land a stud Offensive tackle like the one of the ones out of Texas AM that deserves a whole lot of credit for the phenomenon known as Johnny Football |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Eagles_808
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Posts: 24775
Location: Torrance, CA
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| BBIB wrote: | | At max you finish with one more win this season |
Well there's a crazy 180° turn from your optimistic threads. Welcome to the dark side kid.
_________________
insignia by McNabbNo5 | #championCHIP | #Sparkles |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BBIB
Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 7411
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Eagles_808 wrote: | | BBIB wrote: | | At max you finish with one more win this season |
Well there's a crazy 180° turn from your optimistic threads. Welcome to the dark side kid. |
I would still be optimistic if Vick were starting. I think he could overcome that putrid Oline to make a playoff push with that weak schedule
But even with that weak schedule, without Vick's escapability and with Foles being so inexperienced, this Carolina game is your best chance at getting that one more win without Vick |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Blahman88
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 21774
Location: DA BRITUSH IZLES
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| BBIB wrote: | | Eagles_808 wrote: | | BBIB wrote: | | At max you finish with one more win this season |
Well there's a crazy 180° turn from your optimistic threads. Welcome to the dark side kid. |
I would still be optimistic if Vick were starting. I think he could overcome that putrid Oline to make a playoff push with that weak schedule
But even with that weak schedule, without Vick's escapability and with Foles being so inexperienced, this Carolina game is your best chance at getting that one more win without Vick |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Vick is crud, deal with it
_________________
^Officially endorsed by Jon Dorenbos
| RandyMossIsBoss wrote: | | I would do the same but I know better then to start beef with the EBB. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
oland11
Joined: 15 Jul 2011
Posts: 7271
Location: "This ****ing game is over!" - Chuck Bednarik
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| BBIB wrote: | | Eagles_808 wrote: | | BBIB wrote: | | At max you finish with one more win this season |
Well there's a crazy 180° turn from your optimistic threads. Welcome to the dark side kid. |
I would still be optimistic if Vick were starting. I think he could overcome that putrid Oline to make a playoff push with that weak schedule
But even with that weak schedule, without Vick's escapability and with Foles being so inexperienced, this Carolina game is your best chance at getting that one more win without Vick |
You are aware we have 7 loses right?....
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
