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Billy Spikes
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 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: NFL Fines week 5: Jets Slauson, Hawks Clemons, Cards Fitz |
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| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Jets OG Matt Slauson was fined $10,000 for his illegal block on #Texans LB Brian Cushing which ended his season. |
http://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/statuses/256512649557311489
| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Titans Safety Michael Griffin was fined $21,000 for unnecessary roughness on #Vikings WR Michael Jenkins. |
https://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/status/256120048928825344
| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Packers LB Nick Perry was fined $15,000 for his hit on #Colts rookie QB Andrew Luck. |
https://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/status/256119679658115072
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| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Seahawks DE Chris Clemons was fined $15,750 for roughing the passer against #Panthers QB Cam Newton. |
http://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/statuses/256859562773213184
| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Cardinals WR Larry Fitzgerald was fined $7,875 for grabbing the facemask of #Rams CB Janoris Jenkins. |
http://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/statuses/256859695514546176
| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Rams DT Jermelle Cudjo was fined $7,875 for roughing the passer against #Cardinals QB Kevin Kolb. |
http://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/statuses/256859786166018048
| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Chargers rookie LB Melvin Ingram was fined $15,750 for roughing against #Saints QB Drew Brees. |
http://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/statuses/256860084968235009
| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Rams DE Robert Quinn was fined $15,750 for a helmet-to-helmet hit on #Cardinals QB Kevin Kolb. |
http://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/statuses/256870846608584704
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| Quote: | | Week 5 NFL Fines: #Colts DL Corey Redding was fined $7,875 for unnecessary striking the helmet of #Packers RB Cedric Benson. |
http://twitter.com/NFL_RealUpdates/statuses/256897910875246592
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Jetsman82
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Slauson deserved to be fined. IMO those knee shots are as dangerous as headshots. They should be treated with the same type of discrimination.
If they were really concerned about health, an not hot button topics, they'd adopt that QB hit box to all defenseless players. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Jetsman82 wrote: | Slauson deserved to be fined. IMO those knee shots are as dangerous as headshots. They should be treated with the same type of discrimination.
If they were really concerned about health, an not hot button topics, they'd adopt that QB hit box to all defenseless players. |
If only...
The one that really bugs me is how ball carriers can grab a defender by the facemask and yank him to the ground, and the network will show 3 slo-mo replays. But if a defender grabs mask? Flags come out.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| 24isthelaw wrote: | | Jetsman82 wrote: | Slauson deserved to be fined. IMO those knee shots are as dangerous as headshots. They should be treated with the same type of discrimination.
If they were really concerned about health, an not hot button topics, they'd adopt that QB hit box to all defenseless players. |
If only...
The one that really bugs me is how ball carriers can grab a defender by the facemask and yank him to the ground, and the network will show 3 slo-mo replays. But if a defender grabs mask? Flags come out. |
thats actually illegal. they cant grip the face mask. they can only put there hands on the face masks. which isnt really dangerous.... grabbing the face mask and twisting it is dangerous...hence the rule.
but was the slauson play even illegal? i get it hurt someone and should be against the rules...but is it actually against the rules?
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I don't understand most of that, but I can tell it's probably inaccurate. |
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Really glad to see Slausen get fined for that low blow
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| eagles101 wrote: | | 24isthelaw wrote: | | Jetsman82 wrote: | Slauson deserved to be fined. IMO those knee shots are as dangerous as headshots. They should be treated with the same type of discrimination.
If they were really concerned about health, an not hot button topics, they'd adopt that QB hit box to all defenseless players. |
If only...
The one that really bugs me is how ball carriers can grab a defender by the facemask and yank him to the ground, and the network will show 3 slo-mo replays. But if a defender grabs mask? Flags come out. |
thats actually illegal. they cant grip the face mask. they can only put there hands on the face masks. which isnt really dangerous.... grabbing the face mask and twisting it is dangerous...hence the rule.
but was the slauson play even illegal? i get it hurt someone and should be against the rules...but is it actually against the rules? |
Yes. Peel back block to the knee is illegal
EDIT: Maybe not. I read from our beat reporter who has been doing it for decades that it was a peel back but reading the rule I don't think it was becasue the rule requires the blocker me moving towards his own end line (Rule 12 Section 2 Article 4).
If there is another rule that applies I didn't see it. I also may be remembering the play wrong. I recall the blocker moving toward our end line.
Ultimately there is also the catchall unnecessary rougness that in theory has defined terms but is not limited to those terms. (The rule says "there shall be no unnecessary roughness. This shall include but is not limited to..." 12-2-6 in link above). It could be said this is unnecessary (the diving at the knee part).
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| mse326 wrote: | | eagles101 wrote: | | 24isthelaw wrote: | | Jetsman82 wrote: | Slauson deserved to be fined. IMO those knee shots are as dangerous as headshots. They should be treated with the same type of discrimination.
If they were really concerned about health, an not hot button topics, they'd adopt that QB hit box to all defenseless players. |
If only...
The one that really bugs me is how ball carriers can grab a defender by the facemask and yank him to the ground, and the network will show 3 slo-mo replays. But if a defender grabs mask? Flags come out. |
thats actually illegal. they cant grip the face mask. they can only put there hands on the face masks. which isnt really dangerous.... grabbing the face mask and twisting it is dangerous...hence the rule.
but was the slauson play even illegal? i get it hurt someone and should be against the rules...but is it actually against the rules? |
Yes. Peel back block to the knee is illegal
EDIT: Maybe not. I read from our beat reporter who has been doing it for decades that it was a peel back but reading the rule I don't think it was becasue the rule requires the blocker me moving towards his own end line (Rule 12 Section 2 Article 4).
If there is another rule that applies I didn't see it. I also may be remembering the play wrong. I recall the blocker moving toward our end line.
Ultimately there is also the catchall unnecessary rougness that in theory has defined terms but is not limited to those terms. (The rule says "there shall be no unnecessary roughness. This shall include but is not limited to..." 12-2-6 in link above). It could be said this is unnecessary (the diving at the knee part). |
thats what i was thinking. i didnt think the play itself wasnt illegal.
and the unnecessary roughness would be a slippery slop. the runningback could ahve cut back just before that and had been stopped by cushing. and going for the lower body would be necessary because he already got past him.
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I don't understand most of that, but I can tell it's probably inaccurate. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Fitz that would have been a pick 6 
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| El ramster wrote: | | Fitz that would have been a pick 6 |
He got away with a flag right there 
Shouldn't really matter though since we still beat them
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Why did Clemons get fined? It was a soft play, that was punished enough with a penalty. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Larry Fitzgerald got fined???
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| reckless123 wrote: | | Larry Fitzgerald got fined??? |
Yeah. He grabbed Janoris Jenkin's face mask because he was about to pick it off and most likely have a pick six.
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