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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Honey badger passed his combine drug test. I really think we should go for him round 3. I think he is a steal waiting to happen

I think he'll be a very good nickel corner in the NFL and decent return man, but do we have any need for that? Our group of corners is loaded and we shouldn't be spending a third round pick on a guy to be solely a return man.

If we are gonna take chances on character risk players I'd prefer it to be on someone like Da'Rick Rogers, Baccari Rambo or even Kiko Alonso - guys who we would be able to reap the dividends for drafting more so than we would with Mathieu.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ochocinco4pres wrote:
Honey badger passed his combine drug test. I really think we should go for him round 3. I think he is a steal waiting to happen

I think he'll be a very good nickel corner in the NFL and decent return man, but do we have any need for that? Our group of corners is loaded and we shouldn't be spending a third round pick on a guy to be solely a return man.

If we are gonna take chances on character risk players I'd prefer it to be on someone like Da'Rick Rogers, Baccari Rambo or even Kiko Alonso - guys who we would be able to reap the dividends for drafting more so than we would with Mathieu.


I do think we need that. Our corners are older and have injury concerns. He is a playmaker too which our defense could use.

We really don't have a great return man right now besides Jones. Why not go for a game changer like him.

I wouldn't mind Rogers. He could be there in the 3rd. Hopefully we go S before Rambo so no need there. I'm not against Alonso but I don't see him seeing the field anytime soon either
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ark23 wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
Honey badger passed his combine drug test. I really think we should go for him round 3. I think he is a steal waiting to happen

I think he'll be a very good nickel corner in the NFL and decent return man, but do we have any need for that? Our group of corners is loaded and we shouldn't be spending a third round pick on a guy to be solely a return man.

If we are gonna take chances on character risk players I'd prefer it to be on someone like Da'Rick Rogers, Baccari Rambo or even Kiko Alonso - guys who we would be able to reap the dividends for drafting more so than we would with Mathieu.


I do think we need that. Our corners are older and have injury concerns. He is a playmaker too which our defense could use.

We really don't have a great return man right now besides Jones. Why not go for a game changer like him.

I wouldn't mind Rogers. He could be there in the 3rd. Hopefully we go S before Rambo so no need there. I'm not against Alonso but I don't see him seeing the field anytime soon either


Yeah, I really like the Honey Badger too. You can never have too many corners in this league. Kirkpatrick/Prater were constantly injured last year and Newman is an old man with a 1 year deal. I think Matheiu is going to be a huge steal.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Jones would be a perfect mentor for Tyrann Mathieu, as a cornerback return man, and as a once troubled young man.

LOL at PFT, they fall for every smokescreen hook line and sinker.

At this point, I'll be shocked if we don't take Cyprien at 21, assuming he is there.

Totally unsubstantiated, just going from my gut from following the draft process, I wouldn't be shocked if we took Marcus Lattimore at 37.
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THE DUKE wrote:
Adam Jones would be a perfect mentor for Tyrann Mathieu, as a cornerback return man, and as a once troubled young man.

LOL at PFT, they fall for every smokescreen hook line and sinker.

At this point, I'll be shocked if we don't take Cyprien at 21, assuming he is there.

Totally unsubstantiated, just going from my gut from following the draft process, I wouldn't be shocked if we took Marcus Lattimore at 37.


I do think Cyprien is the pick at this point.

If we go Lattimore at 37 I would lose it
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ochocinco4pres wrote:
THE DUKE wrote:
Adam Jones would be a perfect mentor for Tyrann Mathieu, as a cornerback return man, and as a once troubled young man.

LOL at PFT, they fall for every smokescreen hook line and sinker.

At this point, I'll be shocked if we don't take Cyprien at 21, assuming he is there.

Totally unsubstantiated, just going from my gut from following the draft process, I wouldn't be shocked if we took Marcus Lattimore at 37.


I do think Cyprien is the pick at this point.

If we go Lattimore at 37 I would lose it


Lose it in a good way or a bad way? I'm assuming in a bad way.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE DUKE wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
THE DUKE wrote:
Adam Jones would be a perfect mentor for Tyrann Mathieu, as a cornerback return man, and as a once troubled young man.

LOL at PFT, they fall for every smokescreen hook line and sinker.

At this point, I'll be shocked if we don't take Cyprien at 21, assuming he is there.

Totally unsubstantiated, just going from my gut from following the draft process, I wouldn't be shocked if we took Marcus Lattimore at 37.


I do think Cyprien is the pick at this point.

If we go Lattimore at 37 I would lose it


Lose it in a good way or a bad way? I'm assuming in a bad way.


Bad way. 4th-5th round yes. 2nd....hell no
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ochocinco4pres wrote:
THE DUKE wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
THE DUKE wrote:
Adam Jones would be a perfect mentor for Tyrann Mathieu, as a cornerback return man, and as a once troubled young man.

LOL at PFT, they fall for every smokescreen hook line and sinker.

At this point, I'll be shocked if we don't take Cyprien at 21, assuming he is there.

Totally unsubstantiated, just going from my gut from following the draft process, I wouldn't be shocked if we took Marcus Lattimore at 37.


I do think Cyprien is the pick at this point.

If we go Lattimore at 37 I would lose it


Lose it in a good way or a bad way? I'm assuming in a bad way.


Bad way. 4th-5th round yes. 2nd....hell no


He'll go before rd 3, book it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BHut he shouldn't. Two major knee procedures, one in each knee. I just don't see him lasting, especially in a division like ours.
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BHut he shouldn't. Two major knee procedures, one in each knee. I just don't see him lasting, especially in a division like ours.


Agreed. He could go earlier but I wouldn't go near him before the late 4th
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THE DUKE wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
THE DUKE wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
THE DUKE wrote:
Adam Jones would be a perfect mentor for Tyrann Mathieu, as a cornerback return man, and as a once troubled young man.

LOL at PFT, they fall for every smokescreen hook line and sinker.

At this point, I'll be shocked if we don't take Cyprien at 21, assuming he is there.

Totally unsubstantiated, just going from my gut from following the draft process, I wouldn't be shocked if we took Marcus Lattimore at 37.


I do think Cyprien is the pick at this point.

If we go Lattimore at 37 I would lose it


Lose it in a good way or a bad way? I'm assuming in a bad way.


Bad way. 4th-5th round yes. 2nd....hell no


He'll go before rd 3, book it.


I really doubt it. But I've been wrong before...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marvin's predraft conference:

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Lewis on four picks in first 84: We'll add significant players. Can never have enough depth DL and CB. looking to add depth at LB


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Lewis also looking to add at O-line and says have a chance to add at RB

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ochocinco4pres wrote:
Marvin's predraft conference:

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Geoff Hobson‏@GeoffHobsonCin3m
Lewis on four picks in first 84: We'll add significant players. Can never have enough depth DL and CB. looking to add depth at LB


Quote:
Geoff Hobson‏@GeoffHobsonCin3m
Lewis also looking to add at O-line and says have a chance to add at RB


BPA then? I could honestly see us going CB or DE at 21 if Vaccaro, Cyprien, Cooper, Warmack and Fluker are off the board. I wouldn't mind Tank Carradine or Jamar Taylor if their still available. In that scenario, hopefully a team like Atlanta wants to trade up.
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RedGreenShow wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
Marvin's predraft conference:

Quote:
Geoff Hobson‏@GeoffHobsonCin3m
Lewis on four picks in first 84: We'll add significant players. Can never have enough depth DL and CB. looking to add depth at LB


Quote:
Geoff Hobson‏@GeoffHobsonCin3m
Lewis also looking to add at O-line and says have a chance to add at RB


BPA then? I could honestly see us going CB or DE at 21 if Vaccaro, Cyprien, Cooper, Warmack and Fluker are off the board. I wouldn't mind Tank Carradine or Jamar Taylor if their still available. In that scenario, hopefully a team like Atlanta wants to trade up.


I'm not high on Carradine. I would be ok with Trufant, Taylor or Rhodes if they are there but to be honest I dont think we need a CB that early
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ochocinco4pres wrote:
RedGreenShow wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
Marvin's predraft conference:

Quote:
Geoff Hobson‏@GeoffHobsonCin3m
Lewis on four picks in first 84: We'll add significant players. Can never have enough depth DL and CB. looking to add depth at LB


Quote:
Geoff Hobson‏@GeoffHobsonCin3m
Lewis also looking to add at O-line and says have a chance to add at RB


BPA then? I could honestly see us going CB or DE at 21 if Vaccaro, Cyprien, Cooper, Warmack and Fluker are off the board. I wouldn't mind Tank Carradine or Jamar Taylor if their still available. In that scenario, hopefully a team like Atlanta wants to trade up.


I'm not high on Carradine. I would be ok with Trufant, Taylor or Rhodes if they are there but to be honest I dont think we need a CB that early


The only thing i don't like about Trufant is that he couldn't tackle an infant if he tried. We like corners who can handle themselves against the run.
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