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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:24 am    Post subject: Jrry32 10/16/2012 Mock Reply with quote

Well, thought it might be interesting to take another shot at it. Not going to bother with FA this time, far too murky.

Draft(going with current records):
Round 1 Pick #16 - Chance Warmack OG Alabama
Explanation: Warmack is a massive mauler of a guard that will definitely get a push in the running game. He has the size and power to drive defensive tackles off the ball and hold his ground when bull-rushed. Also surprisingly athletic for a man of his size and strength, he's very talented in pass pro. Last year, I thought that he was right up there with DeCastro. He appears to have passed him this year.

Round 1 Pick #18 - Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech
Explanation: I think this pick might surprise some who were expecting Robert Woods, Keenan Allen or Justin Hunter here. I think Allen goes earlier and Hunter probably does too. However, don't underestimate Davis. While he's not quite as polished at those first 2 WRs, Davis's athleticism is the closest thing to Calvin Johnson since...well...Calvin Johnson. Reportedly ran a 4.37 with a 44 inch VJ in the spring at VT(VT isn't know for inflating their 40s) all the while being a 6'4" 230 WR. Doesn't quite have Calvin's hands or ball-skills but he doesn't have an issue with drops either. Having a good year despite Logan Thomas struggling.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eFvci1A2s

Round 2 Pick #17 - Tony Jefferson FS Oklahoma
Explanation: Jefferson is my favorite safety in this class. I think he'll fall because of his size and because their are other safeties with more athleticism. Still, Jefferson is very Eric Weddle like in that he might be undersized but the kid is a gamer. He's a solid open field tackler, good in run support, very reliable in coverage and can blitz off the edge. Don't be a bit surprised if Jefferson ends up as the best safety out of the 2013 class.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyd58wRfw8A

Round 3 Pick #16 - Gerald Hodges WLB Penn State
Explanation: I still really like this pick. Hodges reminds me a lot of Navorro Bowman at PSU. He's very instinctive and athletic with reportedly 4.5 type speed. He works extremely well in the open field and is good in coverage. While he's not the best at taking on blockers, if you can keep him clean, he'll make plays all over the field for you. Definitely seems perfect for the WLB spot in the NFL. Dunbar would stay at SLB.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFPQNY8zdho

Round 4 Pick #15 - Gavin Escobar TE San Diego State
Explanation - Statistically, Escobar isn't having as strong of a season as 2011 but you can put that on him losing QB Ryan Lindley. He's still leading SDSU in receiving yards and receptions. Escobar is a big TE at 6'6" 250 with what appears to me to be 4.55 to 4.65 type speed. He is athletic enough to separate up the seam, he's an excellent red-zone target, he has big and very strong/reliable hands and he can break tackles after the catch. Escobar looks to me like a future stud in the NFL as a receiving TE. He's reliable, athletic and big. While he's not a great blocker, he's willing and will work at it. However, I'm not too worried about that. Kendricks is an excellent blocker, Escobar is drafted to be the move TE and a big receiving target for Sam who can snatch the ball in traffic. One of my favorite sleepers if you can't tell.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgZm7M3PoO8

Round 5 Pick #14 - Knile Davis HB Arkansas
Explanation: This pick may seem ridiculous right now and it very well could be as Knile was seen as a 2nd round pick last year before the ankle injury. However, he's not come back well from it and is having a terrible year both in terms of picking up yards and ball security. I don't think he's as bad as he's playing right now. If anyone remembers Arian Foster at Tennessee, the same thing happened to him. He went from a 2nd to 3rd rounder to a UDFA due to injuries that sapped his effectiveness and issues with ball security. If Davis does opt to come out(he might return to school, depends on the Head Coaching situation), he could be a major steal at this spot. He's a big decisive runner that would be an excellent back to pair with Daryl Richardson. If he doesn't come out, give me the other Arkansas HB, Dennis Johnson.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Suk_YFD1g

Round 6 Pick #13 - Mark Jackson OT Glenville State
Explanation: Color me surprised if Jackson or Brian Winters from Kent State are available here. I think both will rise up the draft boards substantially this off-season. Both will probably go in the first 4 rounds with Winters possibly going in the first 2. Still, I'll just take a shot in the dark here. Jackson is a massive RT with a lot of developmental upside and raw power.

Round 7 Pick #23 - Travis Johnson DE San Jose State
Explanation - Potential developmental pass rusher who is leading the NCAA in sacks. Undersized at 6'3" 245 but a good athlete with a plus motor. May have upside as a situational pass rusher in the NFL.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a good haul.

-No complains about Warmack but how do you see the line shaping up with him in the mix? Does Rok have the feet to play RT or you bringing back Hunter?

-Not thrilled about Marcus Davis. From the games I've seen, he wasn't noticeable and certainly didn't look 4.3 fast. If they go WR early, they need impact guys instead of guys they need to groom (like Quick).

-Love Tony Jefferson and Gerald Hodges. Instant starters and would take this D to another level.

-Gavin Escobar has got huge hands. The ball disappears in his mitts.

-That Knile Davis clip...I forgot how fast and quick that guy was. If he still has it he could be the 2nd best RB in the class.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stlblackshirt wrote:
It's a good haul.

-No complains about Warmack but how do you see the line shaping up with him in the mix? Does Rok have the feet to play RT or you bringing back Hunter?

-Not thrilled about Marcus Davis. From the games I've seen, he wasn't noticeable and certainly didn't look 4.3 fast. If they go WR early, they need impact guys instead of guys they need to groom (like Quick).

-Love Tony Jefferson and Gerald Hodges. Instant starters and would take this D to another level.

-Gavin Escobar has got huge hands. The ball disappears in his mitts.

-That Knile Davis clip...I forgot how fast and quick that guy was. If he still has it he could be the 2nd best RB in the class.


Davis can fly and he'll make catches in traffic. Might end up being one of the steals of this draft because the kid just keeps getting better. I'll tell you this much, don't be a bit surprised if he's a top 15 pick come April. The guy freakish athleticism for his size, can go up and get the football and doesn't drop every other pass like Hill. He's a tad raw in terms of route running but he's not the project Quick is/was and has the physical talent to be one of the best in football.

Frankly, you gotta take the risk here. If Davis was polished, he'd be a top 7 lock.

Yea, Davis, when healthy, is a top 50 pick. Issue is that he hasn't returned to form since breaking his ankle. That could end up making him a BIG steal.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech--

Seems like he lacks separation. We are running the
WCO we need separation. Sam just can't pray this guy
comes down with the ball. Heck of a catch there but the
CB is running stride for stride with him...

I am still a huge Brian Quick believer. He has the
tools. He's just lacking the IQ and the knowledge.
Quick has a pretty sweet vert as well and attacks the
ball.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El ramster wrote:
Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech--

Seems like he lacks separation. We are running the
WCO we need separation. Sam just can't pray this guy
comes down with the ball. Heck of a catch there but the
CB is running stride for stride with him...

I am still a huge Brian Quick believer. He has the
tools. He's just lacking the IQ and the knowledge.
Quick has a pretty sweet vert as well and attacks the
ball.


Davis doesn't lack separation and we aren't running the WCO.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrry32 wrote:
El ramster wrote:
Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech--

Seems like he lacks separation. We are running the
WCO we need separation. Sam just can't pray this guy
comes down with the ball. Heck of a catch there but the
CB is running stride for stride with him...

I am still a huge Brian Quick believer. He has the
tools. He's just lacking the IQ and the knowledge.
Quick has a pretty sweet vert as well and attacks the
ball.


Davis doesn't lack separation and we aren't running the WCO.


Seems like we run a Hybrid of Air Coryell and WCO.
Sam looks very good when that ball is flying in 1-2 seconds.

But on that Vid it did not look like he had good separation.
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El ramster wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
El ramster wrote:
Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech--

Seems like he lacks separation. We are running the
WCO we need separation. Sam just can't pray this guy
comes down with the ball. Heck of a catch there but the
CB is running stride for stride with him...

I am still a huge Brian Quick believer. He has the
tools. He's just lacking the IQ and the knowledge.
Quick has a pretty sweet vert as well and attacks the
ball.


Davis doesn't lack separation and we aren't running the WCO.


Seems like we run a Hybrid of Air Coryell and WCO.
Sam looks very good when that ball is flying in 1-2 seconds.

But on that Vid it did not look like he had good separation.


A couple things, on the first play, he was clearly held. On the 2nd one, he had separation but had to slow up for the ball. Those were just highlights and about the only ones youtube had. Could show you many plays where he got plenty of separation. Kid isn't lacking in speed or athleticism.
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Whats his floor and his ceiling to you?

I would love to see some more.
Keenan Allen has me on a hight
at the moment though.
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El ramster wrote:
Whats his floor and his ceiling to you?

I would love to see some more.
Keenan Allen has me on a hight
at the moment though.


No clue. Will be able to better tell you at the end of the year.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El ramster wrote:
Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech--

Seems like he lacks separation. We are running the
WCO we need separation. Sam just can't pray this guy
comes down with the ball. Heck of a catch there but the
CB is running stride for stride with him...

I am still a huge Brian Quick believer. He has the
tools. He's just lacking the IQ and the knowledge.
Quick has a pretty sweet vert as well and attacks the
ball.


He slowed up for the second play, first looked like a possible hold. couldn't really tell though.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't agree with the Davis pick. Thomas' struggles or not he's no first rounder.
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Supersuavesky wrote:
Can't agree with the Davis pick. Thomas' struggles or not he's no first rounder.


If he comes out, unless he bombs at the combine, I guarantee you he's a first rounder. Oh and BTW, even with Thomas's struggles, he's still on pace for 1086 yards and 7 TDs.

Davis has elite physical tools and he's only getting more and more polished.
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