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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doomer wrote:
So, are people finally realizing what a crock of feces the allegations are?
no. if anything the evidence makes it even more of a legitimate argument...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In 1996, NFL was OK with Reggie White paying teammates for hits
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/18/in-1996-nfl-was-ok-with-reggie-white-paying-teammates-for-hits/


Try and spin it that way if you want but the significant difference is between big hits and hits that result in an injury. That is a major difference and the line the NFL is PO'd about crossing.

If it had been "highlight blasts" and "de-cleating" instead of cart offs and knock outs, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. The problem is the Saints were paying out directly for injuries.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prorb wrote:
In 1996, NFL was OK with Reggie White paying teammates for hits
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/18/in-1996-nfl-was-ok-with-reggie-white-paying-teammates-for-hits/
I thought it was obvious that the Saints got in trouble for continuing a bounty program after they were told to stop. Had they stopped when they were told to, they wouldn't have gotten in trouble either. Oh hey, that's the same thing to be said about Spygate too.. Also why the players that were allegedly involved in programs with Gregg Williams before New Orleans arent getting in trouble. Things before the emphasis on the rule will be allowed to slide, but those after the emphasis will be punished. This isn't really a big deal. Had they not told the teams to stop and then just decided to start handing out punishments, that's different. But the league was made aware that those programs were to no longer be tolerated.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilltray wrote:

Try and spin it that way if you want but the significant difference is between big hits and hits that result in an injury.

There’s no difference at all. Saints paid money for legal hits only.

At the time the NFL said the program was OK “as long as players use their own money, amounts are not exorbitant and payments aren’t for illegal hits.”


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prorb wrote:
spilltray wrote:

Try and spin it that way if you want but the significant difference is between big hits and hits that result in an injury.

There’s no difference at all. Saints paid money for legal hits only.


That doesn't matter. They weren't paying for the hits. They were paying for the RESULT of the hits, the injuries.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prorb wrote:
spilltray wrote:

Try and spin it that way if you want but the significant difference is between big hits and hits that result in an injury.

There’s no difference at all. Saints paid money for legal hits only.


The players etc were not suspended for illegal hits they are suspended for a bounty program which involves paying players when the opposition gets injured there is no mention of illegal hits.
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