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ganggreen1102


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Where I stand with Sanchez and the Jets Reply with quote

First off i'm happy that we didnt get blown out like last week against SF. With the extremely limited weapons, crappy pass protection and JJ Watt, overall I'd say that there are more positives with Sanchez and the Jets than negatives. Just kidding

Some positives:
-Jeremy Kerley has proven to be a good #3/slot weapon.
-Powell had limited carries but gad 4.5 ypc. I still dont know why he doesn't play much.
-Our dbs played oustanding besides the TD to Daniels.
-Cro contained Andre Johnson
-We didn't get absolutely embarrased on MNF
-Neither of the picks were on Sanchez

Negatives
-Sanch only completed 45 % of his passes
-Once again not much from Greene
-O-line did nothing
-JJ Watt
-Tipped interceptions
-We lost Gates
-Cumberland made two nice catches but didnt do much elsewhere
-I thought our dline would be our next strongest point in our D this year after DBs but theyve done nothing
-Coverage on Daniels

We need Keller back and Hill too. Sanchez needs weapons. Keller is his favorite target and hes barely played. i've said this before and ill say it again if Keller & Hill come back next week vs the Colts and Sanch sucks again then im done with him. I was hoping that we'd split the tough stretch vs Hou and SF but oh well. I'll have a mock up sometime in the next few days so look out for that.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We would have won this game if we had a healthy roster.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickyt31 wrote:
We would have won this game if we had a healthy roster.


Sanchez would not have thrown the pick if Keller was playing.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rickyt31 wrote:
We would have won this game if we had a healthy roster.


Sanchez would not have thrown the pick if Keller was playing.


Exactly, and the drive would have still be going.
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Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?


It is his offense that does not work.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone ever goes on to walterfootball.com and knows my pain for how much he rips Sanchez, he better not say [inappropriate/removed] because this game wasnt his fault. I swear he just doesnt like Sanchez.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quietjetsket wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?


It is his offense that does not work.
Again, explain.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?


It is his offense that does not work.
Again, explain.


IMO he is calling the right plays we just don't have the pieces that fit his system. His scheme need the oline to be able to handle their one on one match ups and create wholes. None of our olinemen can create gaps. last year he had Brandon Marshall as a threat defenses had to plan for. There are no threats on our offense. We got a offense full of role players, no elite players.
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rickyt31 wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?


It is his offense that does not work.
Again, explain.


IMO he is calling the right plays we just don't have the pieces that fit his system. His scheme need the oline to be able to handle their one on one match ups and create wholes. None of our olinemen can create gaps. last year he had Brandon Marshall as a threat defenses had to plan for. There are no threats on our offense. We got a offense full of role players, no elite players.
we didnt have the personnel to run schottenheimer air coryell either...we still ran it. whats your point? We don't really have the personnel to run any form of NFL offense. There's no elite skill players on this team (something I had been calling for since WAY before this past draft was using a first round pick on an elite offensive skill position, namely Michael Floyd.)
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Colt45fool wrote:
rickyt31 wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?


It is his offense that does not work.
Again, explain.


IMO he is calling the right plays we just don't have the pieces that fit his system. His scheme need the oline to be able to handle their one on one match ups and create wholes. None of our olinemen can create gaps. last year he had Brandon Marshall as a threat defenses had to plan for. There are no threats on our offense. We got a offense full of role players, no elite players.
we didnt have the personnel to run schottenheimer air coryell either...we still ran it. whats your point? We don't really have the personnel to run any form of NFL offense. There's no elite skill players on this team (something I had been calling for since WAY before this past draft was using a first round pick on an elite offensive skill position, namely Michael Floyd.)


Floyd (and Blackmon, for that matter) have shown nothing this season. Floyd is the #4 WR for the Cardinals and only has 60 yards.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colt45fool wrote:
rickyt31 wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?


It is his offense that does not work.
Again, explain.


IMO he is calling the right plays we just don't have the pieces that fit his system. His scheme need the oline to be able to handle their one on one match ups and create wholes. None of our olinemen can create gaps. last year he had Brandon Marshall as a threat defenses had to plan for. There are no threats on our offense. We got a offense full of role players, no elite players.
we didnt have the personnel to run schottenheimer air coryell either...we still ran it. whats your point? We don't really have the personnel to run any form of NFL offense. There's no elite skill players on this team (something I had been calling for since WAY before this past draft was using a first round pick on an elite offensive skill position, namely Michael Floyd.)


I wanted Floyd too.

what I'm saying we don't have nothing for Tony to work with. Its not like Schotty ran it and did a good job. We sucked last year too. Tony is calling some pretty good plays, its the players on the field screwing it up. Last year the players were screwing up , and schotty was predictable.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
rickyt31 wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?


It is his offense that does not work.
Again, explain.


IMO he is calling the right plays we just don't have the pieces that fit his system. His scheme need the oline to be able to handle their one on one match ups and create wholes. None of our olinemen can create gaps. last year he had Brandon Marshall as a threat defenses had to plan for. There are no threats on our offense. We got a offense full of role players, no elite players.
we didnt have the personnel to run schottenheimer air coryell either...we still ran it. whats your point? We don't really have the personnel to run any form of NFL offense. There's no elite skill players on this team (something I had been calling for since WAY before this past draft was using a first round pick on an elite offensive skill position, namely Michael Floyd.)


Floyd (and Blackmon, for that matter) have shown nothing this season. Floyd is the #4 WR for the Cardinals and only has 60 yards.
Wisenhunt doesn't play rookies. I'm pretty sure he's not even the #4 receiver in Arizona.

I didn't want Blackmon. I guarantee Floyd would be tearing it up right now in New York.
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rickyt31 wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
rickyt31 wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Colt45fool wrote:
quietjetsket wrote:
Sparano and receivers are responsible for Sanchez's struggle.

said enough.
Sparano? How?


It is his offense that does not work.
Again, explain.


IMO he is calling the right plays we just don't have the pieces that fit his system. His scheme need the oline to be able to handle their one on one match ups and create wholes. None of our olinemen can create gaps. last year he had Brandon Marshall as a threat defenses had to plan for. There are no threats on our offense. We got a offense full of role players, no elite players.
we didnt have the personnel to run schottenheimer air coryell either...we still ran it. whats your point? We don't really have the personnel to run any form of NFL offense. There's no elite skill players on this team (something I had been calling for since WAY before this past draft was using a first round pick on an elite offensive skill position, namely Michael Floyd.)


I wanted Floyd too.

what I'm saying we don't have nothing for Tony to work with. Its not like Schotty ran it and did a good job. We sucked last year too. Tony is calling some pretty good plays, its the players on the field screwing it up. Last year the players were screwing up , and schotty was predictable.


I agree, but I think QJ was criticizing Sparano's system schematically...which I'd like to see the explanation for. Earlier this year QJ was a big proponent for keeping Schotty around.
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