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PossibleCabbage


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MNPackfan32 wrote:
If we don't have a good LT, in time we will be looking for a new QB. I'd rather have 2 LT's than 0. Right now it looks like we have 0.


The "left tackle is the most important player in terms of keeping the QB healthy" line of thought is a bit of a myth. Statistically speaking, QBs aren't injured more on hits off the left side of the offense than they are on hits off the right side of the offense.

Interestingly, QBs are hurt much more often on pressure from Blitzing LBs who come up the middle (as those guys are moving much faster and thus hit harder as kinetic energy goes as the square of velocity) yet we don't choose to pay big money to RBs who are good in Blitz pickup (I mean, Brandon Jackson only signed for 2 years $4.5m)

The reason the left tackle is more important to the offense than the right tackle is not injuries, but turnovers. Hits from the blind side are much more likely to result in fumbles. Fumbles are bad.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DavidatMIZZOU wrote:
I just read a report that has Sherrod all but guaranteed for IR. For what it's worth (nothing, I know), I'm done with him. Absolute zero in 2 years from a first rounder. Before anyone says "Aaron Rodgers," maybe think of the fact that we had Brett Favre instead of Marshall Newhouse as the alternative. I don't want to be that guy, I really don't. But Sherrod has given us nothing and Newhouse is very upgradeable. If there is a solid T prospect, take him.


Good lord, he broke his leg for crying out loud. Rolling Eyes Back in 1996 we didn't give up on Mike Flanagan after he broke his leg and he ended up being a pretty good center. I think you are being a tad premature to give up on this kid.
If we don't have a good LT, in time we will be looking for a new QB. I'd rather have 2 LT's than 0. Right now it looks like we have 0.


I understand you are worried about depth but has Newhouse played poorly this year? Right now he's the only really only true tackle on the active roster (Datko is on PS, right?) so we all have to hope we don't have any more injuries on our O line. Shocked
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"I don't feel real good" about what he learned today about Neal's shoulder. Will know more tomorrow.


Ewwwww. I hate the sound of that.

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Shields on ankle: 100 percent. I知 ready to roll. I知 ready.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"I don't feel real good" about what he learned today about Neal's shoulder. Will know more tomorrow.


Ewwwww. I hate the sound of that.

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Shields on ankle: 100 percent. I知 ready to roll. I知 ready.
I'm still not expecting him to play. At times I wonder whether our training staff are overly cautious with our guys. They can't be as bad as they've shown this year, can they????
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BobSacamano wrote:

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Shields on ankle: 100 percent. I知 ready to roll. I知 ready.

har har har
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Viking fans are VERY happy to see the end of the very successful Favre era, and we gleefully usher in the Rodgers era.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Bulaga did not dislocate his hip as some places reported.
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his injury was a 都mall fracture of the hip socket, and not a dislocation.


Either way he said he should recover fully
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He said he met with a specialist on Tuesday and is on track for a 吐ull recovery,


http://gnb.scout.com/2/1246919.html
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that's one less side of the ball to worry about. Now let's get Sherrod (or some LT) healthy and I feel a whole lot better going forward.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully both Sherrod and Bulaga are good to go for next year...tackle could go from one of our weakest positions to one of the strongest

Newhouse, Sherrod, Bulaga, Barclay, Datko + possible draft picks/UDFA

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbens06 wrote:
Apparently Bulaga did not dislocate his hip as some places reported.
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his injury was a 都mall fracture of the hip socket, and not a dislocation.


Either way he said he should recover fully
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He said he met with a specialist on Tuesday and is on track for a 吐ull recovery,


http://gnb.scout.com/2/1246919.html
I read that on JSOnline, even his mom called him after all the speculation that it was career ending. Glad to know he will be back next year, just need to figure out the rest of this year.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happened with Neal? I haven't heard anything aside from McCarthy's one comment and the fact that he DNP this week.

God this is crazy. Wilson? Is he practicing again?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What happened with Neal? I haven't heard anything aside from McCarthy's one comment and the fact that he DNP this week.

God this is crazy. Wilson? Is he practicing again?


The latest is when he was asked when Matthews/Wilson/Lang/Nelson would be back and he said "I'm timelined out, frankly, McCarthy said. 典hey're getting better. I don't know if they"ll be ready this week."

Snagged the report from ESPN today..

Did not participate 萌/T T.J. Lang (ankle), OLB Clay Matthews (hamstring), DE Mike Neal (shoulder), WR Jordy Nelson (hamstring), RB James Starks (knee), DE C.J. Wilson (knee).

So, no. He isn't practicing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralFC wrote:
What happened with Neal? I haven't heard anything aside from McCarthy's one comment and the fact that he DNP this week.


I only heard/read the stuff from McCarthy saying it was his shoulder and he did not feel good about the report he got from the medical staff. I know Neal had a shoulder issue his rookie year that landed him on IR, so hopefully it has nothing's to do with that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Packer70 wrote:
Hopefully both Sherrod and Bulaga are good to go for next year...tackle could go from one of our weakest positions to one of the strongest

Newhouse, Sherrod, Bulaga, Barclay, Datko + possible draft picks/UDFA



By all accounts, I would be at some level shocked if that's not the case. As I said from day-1, Bulaga will be fine. They are just playing that thing safe. Many would have played him this year with that injury.

Sherrod is still getting water in the knee. A very common issue with a lower break like that. Sherrod can't bend all that well anyway. Pending style, many would be on the field at this stage of that injury. It's just going to take Sherrod a hair longer because it falls in line with a skill set flaw that he already had.

Your talking about two injuries with very high heal rates though.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These reports on Bulaga and Sherrod sure are encouraging for 2013 and if any team needs good news its us. If we can secure a decent center either via FA or the draft indeed our line could go from a weakness to a strength.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pugger wrote:
These reports on Bulaga and Sherrod sure are encouraging for 2013 and if any team needs good news its us. If we can secure a decent center either via FA or the draft indeed our line could go from a weakness to a strength.
It sure could. I saw a lot of great football minds say preseason that we had a top 5 starting O-line. Seems hard to imagine, but Sitton and Bulaga have shown in years they are healthy that they can be top 5 at their position. If we add Jones/Cooper via draft and get Sherrod back, I will feel much more comfortable with that line especially in pass pro.
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