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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I think Weeden has made some good plays, shown some good stuff, and could be promising. If we finish with the worst record and we evaluate Geno Smith or Matt Barkley to be an elite QB, you have to pull the trigger.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditch ... its wastes pick, not terrible pick. Get ur **** right
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the "bad" I see is stuff most QBs improve on with a season under their belt.

For having a total moron for a head coach and play caller, atrocious WRs, and being a rookie.....................I don't HATE the pick of Weeden any more like I did on draft day.

He looks like an actual NFL QB. Been a while since we could say that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These stats mean nothing to me.

When you're throwing the ball 30+, you should be where Weeden's at.

I haven't been impressed by Weeds for a whole game yet. Hopefully he gets it soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stats are what they are.

We've thrown the ball a lot, so the yardage should be there. His YPA is 0.5 higher than McCoy's and that seems to be increasing weekly.

He's thrown a lot of picks, but not all are his fault, as is the case with most QB's. A lot of the picks were simply throws that rookie qb's make. Besides, I think most of us expected him to throw a fair amount of picks. He's a rookie.

The WR's have, for the most part, been more of a hinderance than a help to the guy. Other teams have WR's that actually make the QB look better. We don't. At least not yet.

Bottom line for me? We have a young, INEXPERIENCED offense in general, but I have seen enough talent from most of these guys to stay the course. If Haslam is able to find a guy who wants to keep this core together, I think they'll be just fine next year or the year after.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weeden gets a lot of flack for his interceptions but dang, did you see the play where Skrine had good defensive position and the ball was thrown right to him. He dropped it because the receivers was climbing all over him to get to the ball. The next time one of our receiver gives that much effort to catch a ball will be the first time. Receivers have to believe that any ball coming their way is their ball. If not, QB's get a bunch of picks. Heck, Weeden couldn't throw a back shoulder pass if he wanted to because none of our receivers would make an effort to get back to the ball.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OUTLAW wrote:
Weeden gets a lot of flack for his interceptions but dang, did you see the play where Skrine had good defensive position and the ball was thrown right to him. He dropped it because the receivers was climbing all over him to get to the ball. The next time one of our receiver gives that much effort to catch a ball will be the first time. Receivers have to believe that any ball coming their way is their ball. If not, QB's get a bunch of picks. Heck, Weeden couldn't throw a back shoulder pass if he wanted to because none of our receivers would make an effort to get back to the ball.


Quite right, bolded part especially.

Our WR's are young, inexperienced and talented. This buys them time. However, as of right now, they are hindering the 'stats' of our QB. Weeden has looked better than his stats indicate, at least to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think given what he has to work with in the pass catching department, Weeden has shown ample promise of developing into our franchise QB. Even though our record doesn't show it, I think I'm more hopeful and excited about watching this team play because we have a real, NFL caliber offense than I've been since the fluke D.A. season.
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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
The OUTLAW wrote:
Weeden gets a lot of flack for his interceptions but dang, did you see the play where Skrine had good defensive position and the ball was thrown right to him. He dropped it because the receivers was climbing all over him to get to the ball. The next time one of our receiver gives that much effort to catch a ball will be the first time. Receivers have to believe that any ball coming their way is their ball. If not, QB's get a bunch of picks. Heck, Weeden couldn't throw a back shoulder pass if he wanted to because none of our receivers would make an effort to get back to the ball.


Quite right, bolded part especially.

Our WR's are young, inexperienced and talented. This buys them time. However, as of right now, they are hindering the 'stats' of our QB. Weeden has looked better than his stats indicate, at least to me.


I agree. His stats for the season would look a lot better if it weren't for that Eagles game.

I've been impressed with Weeden. He has played well for a rookie and has improved almost every week. If he had more experienced receivers, he'd look even better.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
The OUTLAW wrote:
Weeden gets a lot of flack for his interceptions but dang, did you see the play where Skrine had good defensive position and the ball was thrown right to him. He dropped it because the receivers was climbing all over him to get to the ball. The next time one of our receiver gives that much effort to catch a ball will be the first time. Receivers have to believe that any ball coming their way is their ball. If not, QB's get a bunch of picks. Heck, Weeden couldn't throw a back shoulder pass if he wanted to because none of our receivers would make an effort to get back to the ball.


Quite right, bolded part especially.

Our WR's are young, inexperienced and talented. This buys them time. However, as of right now, they are hindering the 'stats' of our QB. Weeden has looked better than his stats indicate, at least to me.


I agree absolutely agree with the both of you. I think its details like this some some of the nay sayers refuse to acknowledge.

Makes me miss KWII.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another quick point, if I may.

Weeden's stats can easily skew ones perception of his play. 9 picks are WAY too many, but 5 picks in the other 4 is roughly the pace I had expected, as are the 5 TD's.

Give the guy a mulligan on for his first start and he's pacing out for 20 td's, 20 int's and 4k plus yards.

Not too shabby for a rookie.

Also, you have to consider the drops. Norwood and Little both dropped TD's in (especially Little) in the BAL game. A few of the picks were uncontested by the WR (Benjamin on 2 of them) and one was on a drop by Little.

Rookie QB's throw picks, and many of these picks weren't that bad IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Weeden so far Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
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QB Brandon Weeden has thrown for 1,288 yards, the 2nd-highest total ever by a rookie through 5 games. Cam Newton had 1,610 last year

has weeden made some bad plays yes, but that was expected, the guy is still playing very well thouugh


Unfortunately he is also ranked 33rd in QB Rating out of 33 QBs
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Another quick point, if I may.

Weeden's stats can easily skew ones perception of his play. 9 picks are WAY too many, but 5 picks in the other 4 is roughly the pace I had expected, as are the 5 TD's.

Give the guy a mulligan on for his first start and he's pacing out for 20 td's, 20 int's and 4k plus yards.

Not too shabby for a rookie.

Also, you have to consider the drops. Norwood and Little both dropped TD's in (especially Little) in the BAL game. A few of the picks were uncontested by the WR (Benjamin on 2 of them) and one was on a drop by Little.

Rookie QB's throw picks, and many of these picks weren't that bad IMO.


Just a Norwood plug, he caught 9 passes on the 9 times he was targeted against the giants.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickZambo wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Another quick point, if I may.

Weeden's stats can easily skew ones perception of his play. 9 picks are WAY too many, but 5 picks in the other 4 is roughly the pace I had expected, as are the 5 TD's.

Give the guy a mulligan on for his first start and he's pacing out for 20 td's, 20 int's and 4k plus yards.

Not too shabby for a rookie.

Also, you have to consider the drops. Norwood and Little both dropped TD's in (especially Little) in the BAL game. A few of the picks were uncontested by the WR (Benjamin on 2 of them) and one was on a drop by Little.

Rookie QB's throw picks, and many of these picks weren't that bad IMO.


Just a Norwood plug, he caught 9 passes on the 9 times he was targeted against the giants.


And the week before????

Inconsistant at best.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
NickZambo wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Another quick point, if I may.

Weeden's stats can easily skew ones perception of his play. 9 picks are WAY too many, but 5 picks in the other 4 is roughly the pace I had expected, as are the 5 TD's.

Give the guy a mulligan on for his first start and he's pacing out for 20 td's, 20 int's and 4k plus yards.

Not too shabby for a rookie.

Also, you have to consider the drops. Norwood and Little both dropped TD's in (especially Little) in the BAL game. A few of the picks were uncontested by the WR (Benjamin on 2 of them) and one was on a drop by Little.

Rookie QB's throw picks, and many of these picks weren't that bad IMO.


Just a Norwood plug, he caught 9 passes on the 9 times he was targeted against the giants.


And the week before????

Inconsistant at best.


To his credit those were the first passes I've seen him drop. He's pretty reliable.
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