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Tugboat


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngryPirate wrote:
Tugboat wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
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Seriously. I really like what I'm seeing from him.


We NEED to open it up early. Don't wait until we've already had multiple 3-and-outs and are down by three possessions.


I'm not going to say i 'really like' what i've seen from Gabbert lately, but there are some positive signs and the latter quote is so true. I just want to see the team fully commit to this direction we're allegedly headed. That being, the idea that we are striving to become a 'modern team' with an aggressive offense that can move the ball through the air. So let's see it...and not late in garbage time like today...i want to see it from the opening possession. Finding out if Gabbert is up to the task, and if our o-line and receiving corps can hold up, should basically be the highest priority at this point. Time to take the training wheels off.


Ill give gabbert the rest of the year but to be honest I just dont see him being the guy. Yeah I have liked what i have seen the past few weeks. The Jags might be more effective if we start learning the fast pace offense Oregon uses. I am not talking about the option offense i am talking about just getting on the line and getting a play off. Oregon from the second the player is tackled they get the snap off in about 10 seconds. That way we wont face the blitz it will be your standard 4 man rush and let Gabbert pick them apart.


I completely agree that seeing an uptempo no-huddle offense as a regular wrinkle would be great...but i don't really think we have the O-line protection or the weapons to really make it work in the NFL. I'm as much a fan of that sort of offense as anyone, and it can work in certain scenarios...but when you're talking about NFL defenses rather than NCAA defenses, the adjustment is going to be much quicker and much more effective. Try to do that more than a few times here and there, and our O-Line is going to be huffing and puffing, our QB is going to be stressed, defenses are going to be out for blood, and our WRs are going to end up with even more mistakes than usual. Our receiving corps hasn't even demonstrated they can effectively operate in a standard scenario...lol if they can operate smoothly from an uptempo no-huddle right now.
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JaguarCrazy2832


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we need to fix both sides...it sucks

what happened to the defense?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
we need to fix both sides...it sucks

what happened to the defense?


Regression to mediocrity?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mediocre implies average

this defense is playing straight turrible.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jagman777 wrote:
mediocre implies average

this defense is playing straight turrible.


Was very good last year though. The average of bad and good is average.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. V wrote:
jagman777 wrote:
mediocre implies average

this defense is playing straight turrible.


Was very good last year though. The average of bad and good is average.


I'm not sure what your point is, other than bad + good = average. but it doesn't work like that, each season is its own. They were good last year, and bad this year. these two outcomes do not mean we're a mediocre defense, it means that right now, they're bad.

why is that so? who knows, probably ducks.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jagman777 wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
jagman777 wrote:
mediocre implies average

this defense is playing straight turrible.


Was very good last year though. The average of bad and good is average.


I'm not sure what your point is, other than bad + good = average. but it doesn't work like that, each season is its own. They were good last year, and bad this year. these two outcomes do not mean we're a mediocre defense, it means that right now, they're bad.

why is that so? who knows, probably ducks.


Haha, I was kidding about it, just trying to be funny.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. V wrote:
jagman777 wrote:
mediocre implies average

this defense is playing straight turrible.


Was very good last year though. The average of bad and good is average.


the pass-rush has gotten worse Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
jagman777 wrote:
mediocre implies average

this defense is playing straight turrible.


Was very good last year though. The average of bad and good is average.


the pass-rush has gotten worse Sad


Yea, I really didn't like our first two of this draft and the third one just made it hurt even more.
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Mr. V wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Mr. V wrote:
jagman777 wrote:
mediocre implies average

this defense is playing straight turrible.


Was very good last year though. The average of bad and good is average.


the pass-rush has gotten worse Sad


Yea, I really didn't like our first two of this draft and the third one just made it hurt even more.


i was fine with Branch, I wanted claiborne. said it before and that will always be my opinion
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was good with both selections and feel like both still have a good shot of contributing well for us. I wanted Curry over Branch though.
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