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ochocinco4pres 
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 26420 Location: Indianapolis Indiana
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: O line Metrics? |
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Does anyone have any metrics for them this year? I wanted to see what the numbers were on Andre Smith. I know he is a FA this offseason and I have been happy to not hear his name called for dumb mental errors this year.
Has anyone watched him in particular to see how he has played? _________________
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TheVillain112 
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Don't have any metrics but I would say the Andre Smith has probably been our best O-Linemen thus far. He's been our best run blocker and has done well in pass protection.
After Dre, I would guess Zeitler has been our second best linemen. Whit, Boling and Fanine haven't been bad, but I would say average at best. Fanine has probably been our worst O-Linemen, but that's understandable. For coming in as late has he has, I'm happy with his performance. Needs to get better in the run game though... |
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iPwn 
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TheVillain112 
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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iPwn wrote: | http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
Not player specific, but that should get you the info you need. |
Pretty much confirms that we're better at running right than left... |
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THE DUKE 
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 17840 Location: Centerville, OH
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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TheVillain112 wrote: | iPwn wrote: | http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
Not player specific, but that should get you the info you need. |
Pretty much confirms that we're better at running right than left... |
Zeitler and Smith. Makes sense. _________________
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LondonBengal
Joined: 07 Feb 2010 Posts: 5043 Location: London, England, UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the question then....
Should our front office be looking to extend Andre Smiths' deal before the season is over, he's a free agent come March next year.
Given our defence, we don't really want to be spending a high drafft pick on a new RT do we ?
Or do we let Andre walk and give Collins a shot ? _________________ " Democracy is a system where two idiots can out-vote a genius..........." |
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theJ
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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LondonBengal wrote: |
Here's the question then....
Should our front office be looking to extend Andre Smiths' deal before the season is over, he's a free agent come March next year.
Given our defence, we don't really want to be spending a high drafft pick on a new RT do we ?
Or do we let Andre walk and give Collins a shot ? |
He may get tagged if he continues to play well. I doubt they extend him during the season simply because it's in Andre's best interests to wait until free agency. _________________ If you're not in over your head, how do you know how tall you are?
~T.S. Eliot |
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ochocinco4pres 
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 26420 Location: Indianapolis Indiana
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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theJ wrote: | LondonBengal wrote: |
Here's the question then....
Should our front office be looking to extend Andre Smiths' deal before the season is over, he's a free agent come March next year.
Given our defence, we don't really want to be spending a high drafft pick on a new RT do we ?
Or do we let Andre walk and give Collins a shot ? |
He may get tagged if he continues to play well. I doubt they extend him during the season simply because it's in Andre's best interests to wait until free agency. |
The last thing I want to do is tag him. He isn't worth top 5 LT money. And isn't that what he would get? _________________
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theJ
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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ochocinco4pres wrote: | theJ wrote: | LondonBengal wrote: |
Here's the question then....
Should our front office be looking to extend Andre Smiths' deal before the season is over, he's a free agent come March next year.
Given our defence, we don't really want to be spending a high drafft pick on a new RT do we ?
Or do we let Andre walk and give Collins a shot ? |
He may get tagged if he continues to play well. I doubt they extend him during the season simply because it's in Andre's best interests to wait until free agency. |
The last thing I want to do is tag him. He isn't worth top 5 LT money. And isn't that what he would get? |
I think so. _________________ If you're not in over your head, how do you know how tall you are?
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ochocinco4pres 
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 26420 Location: Indianapolis Indiana
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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theJ wrote: | ochocinco4pres wrote: | theJ wrote: | LondonBengal wrote: |
Here's the question then....
Should our front office be looking to extend Andre Smiths' deal before the season is over, he's a free agent come March next year.
Given our defence, we don't really want to be spending a high drafft pick on a new RT do we ?
Or do we let Andre walk and give Collins a shot ? |
He may get tagged if he continues to play well. I doubt they extend him during the season simply because it's in Andre's best interests to wait until free agency. |
The last thing I want to do is tag him. He isn't worth top 5 LT money. And isn't that what he would get? |
I think so. |
That's way too much for him. I would like to sign him to a 3-4 year deal and not have to do that. _________________
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futbudds 
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 1903 Location: Bungleville
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:24 am Post subject: |
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ochocinco4pres wrote: | theJ wrote: | ochocinco4pres wrote: | theJ wrote: | LondonBengal wrote: |
Here's the question then....
Should our front office be looking to extend Andre Smiths' deal before the season is over, he's a free agent come March next year.
Given our defence, we don't really want to be spending a high drafft pick on a new RT do we ?
Or do we let Andre walk and give Collins a shot ? |
He may get tagged if he continues to play well. I doubt they extend him during the season simply because it's in Andre's best interests to wait until free agency. |
The last thing I want to do is tag him. He isn't worth top 5 LT money. And isn't that what he would get? |
I think so. |
That's way too much for him. I would like to sign him to a 3-4 year deal and not have to do that. |
We have more cap space than holes in our secondary. In the immortal words of malkovich in rounders, (cheesy Russian accent) PAY HIM HIS MONEY |
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LondonBengal
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:19 am Post subject: |
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futbudds wrote: | ochocinco4pres wrote: | theJ wrote: | ochocinco4pres wrote: | theJ wrote: | LondonBengal wrote: |
Here's the question then....
Should our front office be looking to extend Andre Smiths' deal before the season is over, he's a free agent come March next year.
Given our defence, we don't really want to be spending a high drafft pick on a new RT do we ?
Or do we let Andre walk and give Collins a shot ? |
He may get tagged if he continues to play well. I doubt they extend him during the season simply because it's in Andre's best interests to wait until free agency. |
The last thing I want to do is tag him. He isn't worth top 5 LT money. And isn't that what he would get? |
I think so. |
That's way too much for him. I would like to sign him to a 3-4 year deal and not have to do that. |
We have more cap space than holes in our secondary. In the immortal words of malkovich in rounders, (cheesy Russian accent) PAY HIM HIS MONEY |
Is it worth risking losing him, when we have so many other priorities; (LB, DE, CB, DB, the whole damn D in fact) ?
We would have to spend a 1st or 2nd to replace him with unknown success, and a top FA in this market would cost top 5 money anyway. We declined the offer to extend his deal last year, and in fairness, he's playing at a good standard now, We have plenty of cap space, and we have had two high priced tackles before; (Levi Jones & Willie Anderson).
I agree with futbudds, offer him a good deal, (right about week 12). _________________ " Democracy is a system where two idiots can out-vote a genius..........." |
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J-ALL-DAY 
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:15 am Post subject: |
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What kind of metrics are you looking for?
Excluding this week, he has allowed 1 sack, committed 1 penalty, and allowed 4 QB hurries.
According to PFF, Andrew Whitworth has been rated the 7th best tackle while Andre Smith is #17. That is actually VERY good to have both tackles ranked in the top 20.
Same thing with both guards ranked in the top 20 while Faine is rated the worse Center LOL.
Also, when I say top 20 it is counting Left/Right so basically out of 60 starting tackles or guards if that makes sense. _________________
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Spartan300
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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We really need to resign him. Way too many other needs to worry about RT and Smith has done a great job. |
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ochocinco4pres 
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 26420 Location: Indianapolis Indiana
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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J-ALL-DAY wrote: | What kind of metrics are you looking for?
Excluding this week, he has allowed 1 sack, committed 1 penalty, and allowed 4 QB hurries.
According to PFF, Andrew Whitworth has been rated the 7th best tackle while Andre Smith is #17. That is actually VERY good to have both tackles ranked in the top 20.
Same thing with both guards ranked in the top 20 while Faine is rated the worse Center LOL.
Also, when I say top 20 it is counting Left/Right so basically out of 60 starting tackles or guards if that makes sense. |
That is exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you.
Lock him up for 5 more years _________________
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