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Chiefer
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 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: Justin Houston vs Ryan Kerrigan |
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Houston has been pretty good this year but I wanted to see what everyone else thought about him. So I'm comparing him to guys playing the same position chosen in the same draft albeit two rounds earlier.
Tkls: 18
Sacks: 6(1 is also a safety)
PDef: 2
INT: 0
Tkls: 17
Sacks: 3.5
Pdef: 4
INT: 1
What you guys think?
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Kerrigan isn't surrounded by top ten talent everywhere.
But seriously, this is really close. I'm not sure if Kerrigan is being keyed in on more with Orakpo out now, but both are really good. I'll give a s;ight nod to Houston.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Kerrigan for me.. Really love his all around game..
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Chiefer
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| El ramster wrote: | | Kerrigan for me.. Really love his all around game.. |
Houston has a great all around game too.
Like glue in coverage and is fantastic against the run.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a fan of both.
I'd go with Kerrigan, but Houston is a straight-up beast. Really impressed me today.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| JammerHammer21 wrote: | Kerrigan isn't surrounded by top ten talent everywhere.
But seriously, this is really close. I'm not sure if Kerrigan is being keyed in on more with Orakpo out now, but both are really good. I'll give a s;ight nod to Houston. |
C'mon man, Chiefer isn't like the others.
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Jakuvious
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I went with "too early to tell" because you allowed me that cop out 
I'd go with Houston, slightly, but both are going to be very good. Well, are very good, for that matter.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Can't go wrong with either, but I've been a Kerrigan guy since I looked at prospects for his draft class. Like em both, but I'd probably go with Kerrigan given a choice.
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Let's not downplay the difference between Romeo Crennel and Jim Haslett, nor the impact of Tamba Hali opposite him. Kerrigan has taken his game to the next level this season.
It is an interesting comparison because it was something I questioned at the time as to whether the Redskins would have been better off selecting Watt and going after a mid-round OLB prospect like Houston.
Kerrigan has been nothing short of stellar for the Redskins, and I would say he is the most valuable player on defense.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Also....Kerrigan HAS NOT MISSED ANY defensive snaps since being drafted,the only player on our D to accomplish that. Hes a beast,him and Rak were both in the top 20 last season with putting pressure on QBs,hes athletic as hell. His 2 career ints are from his own deflection s and both for tds. He'd probably have more sacks if,he wasn't in coverage so much. 
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To me, you can't go wrong with either and it's moreso about preference. I'd prefer Kerrigan. He has such a great motor.
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Chiefer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| footy_29 wrote: | Let's not downplay the difference between Romeo Crennel and Jim Haslett, nor the impact of Tamba Hali opposite him. Kerrigan has taken his game to the next level this season.
It is an interesting comparison because it was something I questioned at the time as to whether the Redskins would have been better off selecting Watt and going after a mid-round OLB prospect like Houston.
Kerrigan has been nothing short of stellar for the Redskins, and I would say he is the most valuable player on defense. |
Justin Houston had two sacks in the first game without Hali. Hali also wasn't great against the Bills in the 2nd game.
Crennel has been a bad coach this year honestly.
Houston should have went first round that year, and honestly is the Chiefs Defensive MVP as well.
Its a real close race to me which is why I made the comparison. They're both so good.
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footy_29
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| Chiefer wrote: | | footy_29 wrote: | Let's not downplay the difference between Romeo Crennel and Jim Haslett, nor the impact of Tamba Hali opposite him. Kerrigan has taken his game to the next level this season.
It is an interesting comparison because it was something I questioned at the time as to whether the Redskins would have been better off selecting Watt and going after a mid-round OLB prospect like Houston.
Kerrigan has been nothing short of stellar for the Redskins, and I would say he is the most valuable player on defense. |
Justin Houston had two sacks in the first game without Hali. Hali also wasn't great against the Bills in the 2nd game.
Crennel has been a bad coach this year honestly.
Houston should have went first round that year, and honestly is the Chiefs Defensive MVP as well.
Its a real close race to me which is why I made the comparison. They're both so good. |
No doubt a good comparison, I was just pointing out factors that have to be considered. Three quarters through the season, I would love to re-visit this thread.
Crennel is still a positive impact for the defense, evidently. While I do not discount that Houston should have been selected higher, it seems quite clear to me that Hali is a substantial positive impact and influences Houston's success. How can he not?
Losing Orakpo changed the way the defense had to play - it is taking time to adjust, and it will continue to be a process. Kerrigan is the only pass rush threat at this point, and it's clear that teams are taking notice and adjusting their pass protections based off his position. Now, in time it is my hope that Haslett can capitalize on that....but he's not exactly an inspiring defensive coordinator.
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| I respect what Houston has been doing even as the 2nd pass rusher behind Hali, but Kerrigan has been the lead pass rusher on his team without Orakpo since Week 2. His sacks aren't too much lower considering he is the only viable pass rusher on that team, and he is much better in coverage as he constantly gets his hands up. Houston is a better pure pass rusher, but Kerrigan diversifies his talent better |
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I really liked Houston coming outta college. Haven't been able to keep up with him in the pros. Glad to see he's doing so well because I thought he had a real chance to be special and thought that he could've surprised and snuck into the late first round. Kerrigan has really been amazing and really stepped up with Rak out for the season. It seems like both players are going to be really good to great for many years to come.
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