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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
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AJax gets all of those except steals.


Leading the league in triples, good amount of doubles..... He is the prototypical lead off hitter. Steals are not part of being a lead off hitter. They are a bonus if they can but not needed. Like I said earlier, work with him on steals such as watching for more cues from pitchers, how to get a better jump.... His caught rate is not due to speed, it's due to not getting a good jump on the right pitch.
Yeah, I could care less about steals from my lead off as long as he's getting on-base. The only argument I could see for needing to move Jackson down in the order would be if his power numbers kept improving.

With his power, if we could put another player with high OBP ahead of him, that could psychologically lead to a higher propensity for the Tigers to produce more runs. But finding that guy wouldn't be easy, so I'm not gonna cry about it like I'm not gonna cry about not sleeping with Jennifer Lopez haha.


I don't disagree but I put more value on the SB.

OBP is huge but I would trade a bit of OBP for stolen bases. Any time a player can advance and remove double play possibilities is huge in my books.

I completely agree that finding a better lead off guy will be very difficult.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's college for you.


Not really. First time I have had that feedback and working on my masters. No way you can do what was asked on a 1 page flyer.

Oh well


You're right. That's not college for you.


I know what you meant but in APA format and references not used you simply do not need a ref page.

Teacher seems to be new to this
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone else getting tired of the defense we run? I have been studying the 3-4 defense a lot lately and I think we have some great 3-4 personnel. Suh, Fairley, C-will and possibly Sammie Hill should be good ends and Hill could probably be a NT. I think our DE's might be able to play OLB and I think Tulloch would make a great 3-4 ILB. There are a few good NT's in this upcoming draft. Durant might leave in FA and that would leave us with Palmer or Whitehead as a starter so the switch could be smart in that way. Also, teams on average play more than 50% of their snaps in a nickle package and that would be the 2-4-5 which I feel we have great personnel for. I would hope they consider it in the offseason.
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Is anyone else getting tired of the defense we run? I have been studying the 3-4 defense a lot lately and I think we have some great 3-4 personnel. Suh, Fairley, C-will and possibly Sammie Hill should be good ends and Hill could probably be a NT. I think our DE's might be able to play OLB and I think Tulloch would make a great 3-4 ILB. There are a few good NT's in this upcoming draft. Durant might leave in FA and that would leave us with Palmer or Whitehead as a starter so the switch could be smart in that way. Also, teams on average play more than 50% of their snaps in a nickle package and that would be the 2-4-5 which I feel we have great personnel for. I would hope they consider it in the offseason.


I disagree. C. Williams is not DE material in a 3-4. Fairley and Suh could possibly be. Suh for sure. Not sure on Fairley.

Which DE besides Avril could play OLB? KVB? No freaking way. Willie Young? Not way. He is a pass rusher but he has stiff hips and would be HORRID in pass coverage

Tulloch and Levy would be a good ILB duo though.

That is about all you have for the 3-4

Suh-DE
C. Williams- NT
DE-- nobody

OLB- Durant
ILB- Levy
ILB- Tulloch
OLB- Nobody
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detfan782004 wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
Is anyone else getting tired of the defense we run? I have been studying the 3-4 defense a lot lately and I think we have some great 3-4 personnel. Suh, Fairley, C-will and possibly Sammie Hill should be good ends and Hill could probably be a NT. I think our DE's might be able to play OLB and I think Tulloch would make a great 3-4 ILB. There are a few good NT's in this upcoming draft. Durant might leave in FA and that would leave us with Palmer or Whitehead as a starter so the switch could be smart in that way. Also, teams on average play more than 50% of their snaps in a nickle package and that would be the 2-4-5 which I feel we have great personnel for. I would hope they consider it in the offseason.


I disagree. C. Williams is not DE material in a 3-4. Fairley and Suh could possibly be. Suh for sure. Not sure on Fairley.

Which DE besides Avril could play OLB? KVB? No freaking way. Willie Young? Not way. He is a pass rusher but he has stiff hips and would be HORRID in pass coverage

Tulloch and Levy would be a good ILB duo though.

That is about all you have for the 3-4

Suh-DE
C. Williams- NT
DE-- nobody

OLB- Durant
ILB- Levy
ILB- Tulloch
OLB- Nobody


Time to look for FA's.
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detfan782004 wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
Is anyone else getting tired of the defense we run? I have been studying the 3-4 defense a lot lately and I think we have some great 3-4 personnel. Suh, Fairley, C-will and possibly Sammie Hill should be good ends and Hill could probably be a NT. I think our DE's might be able to play OLB and I think Tulloch would make a great 3-4 ILB. There are a few good NT's in this upcoming draft. Durant might leave in FA and that would leave us with Palmer or Whitehead as a starter so the switch could be smart in that way. Also, teams on average play more than 50% of their snaps in a nickle package and that would be the 2-4-5 which I feel we have great personnel for. I would hope they consider it in the offseason.


I disagree. C. Williams is not DE material in a 3-4. Fairley and Suh could possibly be. Suh for sure. Not sure on Fairley.

Which DE besides Avril could play OLB? KVB? No freaking way. Willie Young? Not way. He is a pass rusher but he has stiff hips and would be HORRID in pass coverage

Tulloch and Levy would be a good ILB duo though.

That is about all you have for the 3-4

Suh-DE
C. Williams- NT
DE-- nobody

OLB- Durant
ILB- Levy
ILB- Tulloch
OLB- Nobody


Time to look for FA's.


There is no way you abandon the 4-3 when the young talent you have been adding is for the 4-3
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
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detfan782004 wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
Is anyone else getting tired of the defense we run? I have been studying the 3-4 defense a lot lately and I think we have some great 3-4 personnel. Suh, Fairley, C-will and possibly Sammie Hill should be good ends and Hill could probably be a NT. I think our DE's might be able to play OLB and I think Tulloch would make a great 3-4 ILB. There are a few good NT's in this upcoming draft. Durant might leave in FA and that would leave us with Palmer or Whitehead as a starter so the switch could be smart in that way. Also, teams on average play more than 50% of their snaps in a nickle package and that would be the 2-4-5 which I feel we have great personnel for. I would hope they consider it in the offseason.


I disagree. C. Williams is not DE material in a 3-4. Fairley and Suh could possibly be. Suh for sure. Not sure on Fairley.

Which DE besides Avril could play OLB? KVB? No freaking way. Willie Young? Not way. He is a pass rusher but he has stiff hips and would be HORRID in pass coverage

Tulloch and Levy would be a good ILB duo though.

That is about all you have for the 3-4

Suh-DE
C. Williams- NT
DE-- nobody

OLB- Durant
ILB- Levy
ILB- Tulloch
OLB- Nobody


Time to look for FA's.


There is no way you abandon the 4-3 when the young talent you have been adding is for the 4-3


If they make a complete scheme switch on defense you can go ahead and write off at least the next two seasons while they rebuild. It would set the team back quite a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDOG_det wrote:
Is anyone else getting tired of the defense we run? I have been studying the 3-4 defense a lot lately and I think we have some great 3-4 personnel. Suh, Fairley, C-will and possibly Sammie Hill should be good ends and Hill could probably be a NT. I think our DE's might be able to play OLB and I think Tulloch would make a great 3-4 ILB. There are a few good NT's in this upcoming draft. Durant might leave in FA and that would leave us with Palmer or Whitehead as a starter so the switch could be smart in that way. Also, teams on average play more than 50% of their snaps in a nickle package and that would be the 2-4-5 which I feel we have great personnel for. I would hope they consider it in the offseason.


I'm getting tired of everything the Lions are doing but that's simply a reflection of my frustration with the start of this season.

The Lions need continuity and the majority of players have been drafted for a 4-3. To change that now would be a step back in my opinion.

Using the 3-4 as a different look on occasion is more likely and I would hope they show more 5-2 looks.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sure hope the Lions dline is watching the Texans game tonight.
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I sure hope the Lions dline is watching the Texans game tonight.
To see how a 3-4 works? Wink
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I sure hope the Lions dline is watching the Texans game tonight.
To see how a 3-4 works? Wink


They play a 5-2 actually.

I was hoping Suh and Fairley can pick up some pointers on how to generate pressure from the interior.
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I sure hope the Lions dline is watching the Texans game tonight.
To see how a 3-4 works? Wink


They play a 5-2 actually.

I was hoping Suh and Fairley can pick up some pointers on how to generate pressure from the interior.
Eh whatever. I think they are technically a 3-4 base team but play like 70% of their defense snaps out of the 2-4 and the 5-2.
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I sure hope the Lions dline is watching the Texans game tonight.


Their offense runs the ball so easily. It's sad in comparison to the Lions.
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I sure hope the Lions dline is watching the Texans game tonight.


Their offense runs the ball so easily. It's sad in comparison to the Lions.


Linemen.
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Alex Karras was a Lions great and formed part of the original fearsome foursome. His health is failing and it doesn't look good.

http://www.freep.com/article/20121008/SPORTS01/121008090/detroit-lions-alex-karras-kidney-failure?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cp
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