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DJ_Fka


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dont think he is big enough for LT


Jones is roughly the same size as Tyron Smith. Smith was 6'5" 307. Jones is expected to be a shade over 6'4", 305. Tyron Smith's been pretty darn good for Dallas.


I am 6'5 250, doesn't mean I am Gronk
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dont think he is big enough for LT


Jones is roughly the same size as Tyron Smith. Smith was 6'5" 307. Jones is expected to be a shade over 6'4", 305. Tyron Smith's been pretty darn good for Dallas.


I am 6'5 250, doesn't mean I am Gronk


LOL, that's a on-field play/talent issue, not a size issue. You said he wasn't big enough to play LT, Smith's size vs. Jones' size refutes that.
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I don't see Jones being athletic enough to be a LT. Think he make a great Center.
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I don't see Jones being athletic enough to be a LT.


A perfectly reasonable concern from what I can tell.
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Damn iPad cutoff rest of my post

I did say jones not athletic for lt, will be pro bowl C
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If he's not athletic enough that's one thing but I simply don't see the validity of the size argument.
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Smith from Dallas hasn't been exactly lights out, he has been giving up sacks like massie and batiste

Also cmu vs navy on espn atm
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That OT Eric Fisher on right now on espn 2
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It makes me sad that 31 Nfl and 120 odd cfb teams can run the ball and we can't
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Smith from Dallas hasn't been exactly lights out, he has been giving up sacks like massie and batiste


Sarcasm?

Per PFF, in 20 NFL starts Tyron Smith (Playing 2 different OL positions) has allowed 9.5 QB sacks while ranking as PFF's 4th best run blocking OT in the league. In just 5 starts, D'Anthony Batiste has already given up 7 sacks (5.5 for Massie). The pair rank 68th and 69th in the run game respectively.

So....
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Had some family time last night, missed a golden opportunity to see Fisher. How did he look?
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Had some family time last night, missed a golden opportunity to see Fisher. How did he look?


I only saw the 2nd half but he looked pretty good. CMU was pretty bad but when their QB was getting pressured from 3 different directions Fisher still maintained his block. He gave up a sack but their QB ran right into it IMO. Their QB was terrible and I think he ended up getting benched.
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Had some family time last night, missed a golden opportunity to see Fisher. How did he look?


I only saw the first 2 drives for CMU as I was going to a high school game. He missed what looked like two run block pick up but that all I saw.
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Texas defensive end Jackson Jeffcoat, the 26th ranked player in the rankins list I posted earlier from NFLDraftScout.com suffered a torn pectoral this weekend and is officially out for the remained for the season. He finishes with 10.5 TFL and 4 sacks in 6 games.

He's a junior and you have to think he probably goes back to school now.
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Right now, I see 4 clear needs for this team:

1. LT
2. QB
3. RG
4. SILB
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