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pollino14 
Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 15146
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: Should this be Woodson's last year in Green Bay |
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Let me start by saying, I have a ton of respect for Woodson. The guy is a pros pro. But lets cut to the obvious...
1. He can't cover anyone anymore. Woodson gets beat like he stole something multiple times a game. He simply cannot keep up with the younger cats anymore. He's a very big liability out there.
2. He s good for at least 2 PI calls a game. Every game... Because he can't cover anyone, he always grabs an arm or something, and the refs always calls it, and it's the most frusterating thing ever.
3. He's an ineffective blitzer, not a major thing but these announcers keep praising him for it, but I really don't see it.
Woodson was great in his prime, but this is a young man's sport, and father time catches up with all of us. Williams/Shields/Heyward/House would be more than sufficent next year. Heck, we prob will be looking for a corner again early in the draft. _________________
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DavidatMIZZOU
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 6036 Location: The ZOU
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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I think so. One of my favorite players ever. But this has been a trend for a while and honestly I don't know how it changes. _________________ GO PACK GO!
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Pugger 
Joined: 01 May 2010 Posts: 4321 Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: |
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It is sad to see for sure. He should only be used near the LOS from here on out. We'll be better served to have him get after the QB and RBs. I''m wondering if we'll see more of this once House returns? _________________
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IrishGreen 
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 30798 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I don't think so. I still think he could be a good dime back and mentor type. He would need to take a significant paycut though, obviously. _________________
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ArodFanboy 
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 2345
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:21 am Post subject: |
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If he takes a substantial paycut, I wouldn't mind bringing him back as a role player. It's becoming increasingly obvious to me that his days as a full time starter are numbered and probably should be done with now. His big play mentality was great before he slowed down, now that he has it's more of a problem then a plus. He's still going to excite us with turnovers every once in a while, but the number of penalties he rightfully warrants out there prove to me he is finished as a starter. _________________
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MrBobGray
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 1528
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Not really sure yet, but I'll say this:
Had Woodson hung on to any of the several chances at a pick he had, we probably aren't having this conversation. Lost in the terrible game yesterday is the fact that the coaches can only put players in the right position so many times, and our players simply didn't capitalize on it at all, Woodson and Williams especially. |
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Title Town USA 
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 15338 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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I'd love to see Woody stick around after he does retire. Asst. DB coach to begin with. _________________
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justo 
Joined: 05 Aug 2012 Posts: 9057 Location: Hood River, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| IrishGreen wrote: | | I don't think so. I still think he could be a good dime back and mentor type. He would need to take a significant paycut though, obviously. | IG read my mind. _________________
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umphrey
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont know, Ive been sick of the holds and DPI for some time now. I dont really like the defensive philosophy of "give up yards until the QB makes a mistake", either, which Woodson seems to represent at this point in time. |
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rbens06
Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 531
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| umphrey wrote: | | I dont know, Ive been sick of the holds and DPI for some time now. I dont really like the defensive philosophy of "give up yards until the QB makes a mistake", either, which Woodson seems to represent at this point in time. |
I go back and forth on the aggressive style of play Woodson has. It can be very effective at disturbing and frustrating receivers. Also, it has led Woodson to a lot of big plays. However, it does come with a high probability of getting a penalty and putting the defense in a tougher situation. Overall, when it works, it works well, but when it doesn't work it can be really bad, like in the Colts game where he got a couple of big penalties. I do not think we can change Woodson's style and think that in the long run you just hope the big plays outweigh the penalties, which is not looking like it is right now. I personally feel that Woodson, if he wants to, should be back next year. I think that he can still be an effective safety that when given the opportunity to roam is/will make a lot more plays. Plus I think he can still slide over to corner and be solid, just maybe not on the slot or number one receiver anymore. Let Tramon play against the one and groom someone else for the slot, then have Woodson take the other outside receiver. |
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GBPackers79
 Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 19236 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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He can't play his current role.
Let's bring Joe Porter back. _________________
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incognito_man 
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 26371 Location: Madison
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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He still is a good football player.
He is NOT worth his contract.
So, if he doesn't drastically cost less, yes it should be his last year.
If he's willing to take less, he still has a spot as one of our best 53. |
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Sandybaby716 
Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 3526 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Voted for him to not return next season primarily because of his salary. Frankly, he would still be solid as a dime back, as there are certain things that he brings to a defense that are irreplaceable. I rather hope that one of our coaches (likely Perry) gets offered some sort of DC job so Woodson can take that role should he choose to retire. Maybe even make a new role on the coaching staff where he trains players for the unique responsibilities in our nickel package that made him DPOY and a SB champ. _________________
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I Am Rodgers
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 6400 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| incognito_man wrote: | He still is a good football player.
He is NOT worth his contract.
So, if he doesn't drastically cost less, yes it should be his last year.
If he's willing to take less, he still has a spot as one of our best 53. |
Yup. Said this in the post game thread (I think it was there). For what he gives our team doesn't match the value of his contract. Same with some other players (Driver, Saturday, Finley). We have some old players with bad contracts that we really need to shed to give to our young guys. Woodson is #1 just because his cap hit in 2013+2014 is 10Mil. Way too much of a cap hit for what we get out of him. _________________
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nfldraftguru1 
Joined: 07 Feb 2009 Posts: 8035 Location: eau claire, wi
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Not at his current salary. He'll have to take a substantial paycut to remain on the team IMO. He's still solid covering the slot and TEs, but his days of jumping routes and returning INTs for TDs may be over because his speed is starting to be a liability. _________________
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