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ElReyDeLosReyes
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By having a cool name.
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goldfishwars
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I have no idea how good he was - during his prime years he was running through gaping lanes and into the end zone untouched much of the time.
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Tzimisce
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| GaTechRavens wrote: |
Brady...find a non-Pats fan who shares your sentiment, then we'll talk. I don't think he even had a QB rating over 90, which shouldn't get you anywhere near an MVP discussion post-2004. |
Tom Brady in '05:
[among QBs with 300+ attempts]
4110 yards [1st]
26 TD passes [3rd]
7.8 YPA [4th]
92.3 rtg [4th]
Peyton Manning won the MVP with similar numbers in 2008.
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Jakuvious
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| Tzimisce wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: |
Brady...find a non-Pats fan who shares your sentiment, then we'll talk. I don't think he even had a QB rating over 90, which shouldn't get you anywhere near an MVP discussion post-2004. |
Tom Brady in '05:
[among QBs with 300+ attempts]
4110 yards [1st]
26 TD passes [3rd]
7.8 YPA [4th]
92.3 rtg [4th]
Peyton Manning won the MVP with similar numbers in 2008. |
You're missing the most important stat of all. Is Tom Brady Peyton Manning? No.
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Meeker
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| jrry32 wrote: | | james.mcmurry13 wrote: | | steelcurtain29 wrote: | | He was a pretty good back, but his epic lineman made him a star. |
I agree with this. He was definitely a good RB, but he was made to look great and even elite for several years by a line riddled with hall of famers.
Very good back still, not just anyone could've done what he did (even with the line), but pretty irrelevant on an all-time scale. |
Riddled with HOFers? They had Hutch and Jones. Not really riddled.
His OL was great but he's, imo, a better player then he's remembered to be. |
I agree, much better player than people will remember him for. Only problem is, is that he is a prime example of a contract player. Once he got his, he was done. People like to put all the problem on Hutch leaving but that wasn't it.
| Tooki wrote: | He didn't give up once he got paid. The problem is that our incompetent GM (Tim Ruskell) gave him a payday right as his body was shutting down. He was run into the ground over those 5 big seasons.
And LT is the best running back of the past decade. What's the point in comparing an inferior player to him? Alexander had elite vision. Yes he had big holes, but it takes vision to hit those holes consistently. Plus he had a mean stiff arm. |
I disagree. Watching his film pre and post contract is like watching two completely different RBs. He ran so much harder and actually tried to run through people pre contract. Post, you almost never saw him try as hard. I don't think it was just his body.
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Sacks98
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How can he not be blamed Meeker? Ruskell used the franchise tag on Alexander when Holmgren wanted it used on Hutchinson.
Just my opinion but i think he was a product of our line running behind Hutchinson and Jones.
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EliteTexan80
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Good RB, running behind one of the best left side OLs ever put together with Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson. You saw the decline the minute Minny threw out the poison pill, but what RB wouldn't see a drop when losing a guy as good as Hutch?
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vikingsrule
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Whenever I hear the name Alexander, I always first think of Jones and Hutchinson  |
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Meeker
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Sacks98 wrote: | How can he not be blamed Meeker? Ruskell used the franchise tag on Alexander when Holmgren wanted it used on Hutchinson.
Just my opinion but i think he was a product of our line running behind Hutchinson and Jones. |
I disagreed with him not giving up, I would have signed Hutch as well. I also disagree with him being a product of the oline.
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-Munch-
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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He'll be remember as that guy who was on a madden cover.
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Tooki
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Meeker wrote: | | Sacks98 wrote: | How can he not be blamed Meeker? Ruskell used the franchise tag on Alexander when Holmgren wanted it used on Hutchinson.
Just my opinion but i think he was a product of our line running behind Hutchinson and Jones. |
I disagreed with him not giving up, I would have signed Hutch as well. I also disagree with him being a product of the oline. |
He was never a back that was going to make things happen on his own.
The team as a whole declined as well.
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Tzimisce
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| -Munch- wrote: | | He'll be remember as that guy who was on a madden cover. |
Vince Young was on a Madden cover.
Chew on that for a bit.
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These threads sound like the person headlining it died.
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Meeker
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| Tooki wrote: | | Meeker wrote: | | Sacks98 wrote: | How can he not be blamed Meeker? Ruskell used the franchise tag on Alexander when Holmgren wanted it used on Hutchinson.
Just my opinion but i think he was a product of our line running behind Hutchinson and Jones. |
I disagreed with him not giving up, I would have signed Hutch as well. I also disagree with him being a product of the oline. |
He was never a back that was going to make things happen on his own.
The team as a whole declined as well. |
He did make things happen on his own pre contract. Not all the time....but he tried much harder. Post contract he just looked like he gave up on the game.
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holt_bruce81
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Shaun Alexander and Toughness should not be mentioned in the same sentence. |
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