The maturation of Geno Smith

Arrowhead86 · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 4095 Location: Kansas City

While I know there have been other QB discussions - I didn't this info to be missed.

When considering taking a QB in the first round no matter how needed - there is always a bit of fear associated with it. So quite simply.. the more you know the better you can commit to the decision.

This is simply more info to get on likely the future 1st overall pick and possibly, the next QB of the KC Chiefs.

The maturation of Geno Smith.

couple of points to discuss, with quotes:

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Eric Berry · Joined: 23 Jan 2011 Posts: 381 Location: Lexington, KY

Think of what an expectation of perfection could do to this team. Just today on 610, Bernard Pollard said the difference between KC and Baltimore is that Baltimore expects to win. How can we even be remotely worried about his expectation for perfection when our players dont even expect to win when they take the field
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Arrowhead86 · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 4095 Location: Kansas City

Well at think it's unique for the QB position more so than any other to understand you have to forget the last play.

The guy came off a record setting 8 TD (and only 6 incompletions) 700 yard day, and a win, and he's talking about needing to play better. On one hand I like the constant wish to improve but to not recognize such a great day seems OVERLY harsh on himself.

All his NFL games obviously won't look like that. How might he handle a 12 for 25 170 2 INT day? I know he can look to improve on his play.. but can he forget the bad plays/performances when they happen?

Don't make it so black and white - there's plenty of gray to the area.
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nicfre2011 · Joined: 15 Mar 2011 Posts: 6428 Location: SC

I would think it shows maturity in how he talks to the media. If he started gloating about his performance all you would hear about Smith is that he is a typical arrogant athlete. But when you listen to most NFL quarterbacks you never hear them get overly excited talking about their accomplishments but often talk about how they can improve.
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Arrowhead86 · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 4095 Location: Kansas City

Both of you make compelling points. I know I'd be in line to call him out for praising his own performance if he did too much or it. It's a fine line.

Let me be clear though, in raising this point about him from the article I am not wanting to detract from him. His coach mentioned it as a concern and it struck me. Seemed a good discussion point.

So no one has really commented on the 2nd quoted part. That seemed like one of the highest praises I'd ever heard of. I loved it.
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nicfre2011 · Joined: 15 Mar 2011 Posts: 6428 Location: SC

DT58_lives_on · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 5638 Location: St. Cloud, MN

Nic, throwing the WR open is something we as Chiefs fans don't understand. It's the concept of throwing not to where the receiver is, and maybe not even where they will be, but rather where you need them to be and understanding they will be there.

In Cassel's terms this is at about the 11' mark vertically for Bowe and Baldwin.

It's truly about knowing where you can put the ball to help your receiver make a play.

It's a phrase I've been hearing a lot lately in broadcasts of the game.
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Arrowhead86 · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 4095 Location: Kansas City

Look like you two worked it out - and it's been scarcely seen from #7. He's much more likely to throw our guys into coverage and kill any YAC yardage Sad

The fact that Smith does this so late in the progression (3rd read) just illustrates his quick mind and ability to read and process and adjust things so late in the play.

WVU vs Texas on Saturday at 6pm CST should be required viewing for this forum. Huge test for Smith against a team notoriously stacked with NFL talent and speed on defense.
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Arrowhead86 · Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 4095 Location: Kansas City

more on Geno, and the offense he's in. IF he were to become a Chief, I'm curious if people believe Daboll would adopt much of his college offense similar to how Shanahan has done for RG3.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--geno-smith-becomes-air-raid-s-greatest-disciple--ndash--and-college-football.html

One thing to notice when you watch WVU, they use the Pistol formation from time to time. I love the Pistol formation (and have been surprised Gailey never uses it in Buffalo).
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nicfre2011 · Joined: 15 Mar 2011 Posts: 6428 Location: SC

diamondbull424 · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 12773 Location: Baltimore, MD

Saw the quotes above and I do think it would be pretty worrisome if your QB is overly concerned and is too critical. Being too critical means he's less likely to forget about bad plays and more likely to be raddled in pressure situations. Haven't really followed the guy, but that'd be a concern.

I would've liked to see him say something along the lines of, "I had a great game. Definitely the best game I've had in my career. I'll enjoy it, but there's still some things I need to work on. The incompletions were bad reads, I'll have to go to the film and keep trying to get better."

But that said, if this guy keeps it up, he probably will be the first pick in the draft. Unfortanately for you guys I think the Chiefs will likely have to trade up to get the #1 pick. I think the Jets will finish with a worst record tbqh- they look like a total train wreck... and there's no guarantee that they wouldn't take Smith. It might cost a couple 1sts and 2nd/3rd to get it done. Just my 2 cents.
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Chiefer · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject:

^Geno is great under pressure, so thats not a concern really. Also against LSU last year he showed that he can also forget bad plays. Threw a couple interceptions early, but kept on fighting and had a good game although didnt pull out a win.

I think on the field hes a different person then he is off. Dont know how often you hear this about players in the NFL, but Im fine with my QB being hard on himself after a game even a win. What was that quote by Vince Lombardi again?

“Gentlemen, we will chase perfection, and we will chase it relentlessly, knowing all the while we can never attain it. But along the way, we shall catch excellence.”
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