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ThatTitansFan


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="latinoaustino"][quote="JerseyTitan"][quote="ThatTitansFan"]Jarvis Jones will not be a top 10 pick. Obviously the talent is there, but no one is spending a top 10 pick on a guy with a spinal problem.
Anyways, Star has to be the pick. He's such a can't miss prospect at DT. Otherwise, Montgomery. Mingo is too small, and we already have that dedicated speed rusher filled with Wimbley. Getting a top level all around DE would be more beneficial.
Anyways, I think we surprise the world and take Jake Matthews! Then put him in at RG and groom him to take over a tackle spot. Then take the highest rated center in the second. Then the highest rated guard remaining in the third, to replace Hutch in 2014.[/quote]

Wow, not many people know about his spinal injury (the real reason he transferred from USC). While the injury is definitely a red flag to me, it hasn't stopped a lot of the draft "experts" from putting him in their top 5 overall players (and sometimes #1 overall)[/quote]

Robert Quinn has an inoperable brain tumor and is one freak hit away from death yet he was still a top 10 pick.[/quote]

It's non-malignant. As soon as it was established it was non-malignant and not growing, there's nothing to be done. And it's not like getting hit will do anything- if it aint growin, it aint growin.

A spinal problem on the other hand? That's something that will get a lot more looks, especially since it came from injury to start with. Maybe he's draftable today (with the rookie cap), but if this was pre-rookie cap, he wouldn't even be close to a top 10. I guess someone will take the risk, but I wouldn't.
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TitanSS


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flylow wrote:
KingTitan wrote:
Nobody really thinks DE is a need?

To me it's high on the list.....




To me you can have all the pass rushing DEs you want, but without that one guy in the middle (at DT) that can push Guards and Centers back. You won't get many Sacks and QBs will have FOREVER to torch any secondary. Which is why the Titans can't cover TEs and give up tons of passing yards, weekly.


We are fine at DE, starting wise, and no way should you take a 'depth' guy in the 1st. The problem on the D-Line is that we have no 'big' guy that can rush the passer with force. Marks/Klug can on occasions, but most of their sacks come from when the secondary actually covers or when we actually blitz. While Martin/Casey are mostly run stoppers and don't have the ability to rush the QB.


Agreed. I think our DEs are fine. They get a lot of pressure from the edge, but our DTs do not collapse the pocket.

Take last night for example. We would have had numerous sacks if we had a DT collapsing the pocket on the inside. But instead our DTs are fanned out by the OL and Berger has tons of room to step up into a clean pocket and make a play.

You can have all the pressure on the edge that you want, but if the QB can drive a truck up the middle of your line all that speed on the outside does nothing.
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TitanLegend


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While some more pass rush would be nice, the run stopping play from the d-line has been outstanding.

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Young Bucks Step Up to Stop the Run

The linebackers are often perceived as the stars of top run defenses, and Colin McCarthy (-1.6) is starting to receive positive reviews. However, this week, as is usually the case, it was the Titansí defensive line that was the big reason for their quality run defense. This time it was the turn of a first-year, second-year and a third-year player to steal the show as they beat up on Steeler runners. On the inside Jurrell Casey (+1.9 run defense) and Mike Martin (+2.2 run defense) continued their fine seasons combining for six stops in run defense, while on the edge Derrick Morgan had his best game in run defense since the opening game of the season, adding another two. The Titans found a defensive tackle pairing to be proud of in the draft last year in the shape of Casey and Karl Klug, but the former Iowa Hawkeye has been somewhat sidelined by Martinís fine start to the season. Both Martin and Casey rank in the Top 10 among defensive tackles in terms of run stop percentage (Martin third at 13.5%, Casey eighth at 10.3%) and, having missed only one tackle in run defense between them, they donít leave much for those around them to clean up. When combined with a solid display from SeníDerrick Marks, whose highlight play toward the end of the third quarter was one of the quickest get-offs your ever likely to see, itís little surprise the Steelersí patchwork offensive line couldnít create any room for their running game to get moving this week.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/12/refo-steelers-titans-week-6/
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rd. 1 - Eric Reid - S - LSU - Someone has to sure up our defensive backfield and make defenders pay for working over the middle. I like Babs at SS if we just had someone at FS who could pair with him.

Rd. 2 - Insert any Center

Rd. 3-7 OL. Have to get lucky at least once right?

Haha. But for real. Stewart seems to be falling off a bit on the outside, but still seems to have his mean streak. How do we think he would perform if we moved him inside to RG and then found a RT in FA to go along with our rookie center we drafter in the second round.

I don't know how deep the rookie C class is, what FA T will be available or if Big Country at RG would pan out, but nonetheless changes need to be made.

Eric Reid and a competent OL would be a solid start.
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prozac77


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, so I've finally watched this Bjorn Werner fella against Wake Forest on youtube. And this guy is LIGHTNING! He was the first one off the line as soon as the ball was snapped on what seemed like every play! I can only imagine what a guy like that would do for the the Titans defense.
Titans might play their way out of his draft range though as Werner seems to be a Top 5 pick and Locker getting healthy and the schedule easing up a bit they will get some more W's.
But if he is available, he is the pick.

I also watched Mingo and didn't come away too impressed. I was focusing on him put I kept on shifting my attention to his teammate Montgomery who was making plays.
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justing101


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know about our conditional draft picks we may get? We have to get a high one for Finnegan.
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