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Drew_Carey


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NONE of the potential coaching candidates that I have heard of so far interest me at all for the Browns.

Jauron I really like as DC...
- The Browns would be stupid to let him walk - much like letting Seely leave.

Childress has great experience...
- If he is replaced I would like to see a college coach brought in to bring some dynamic ability to the offense.

Shurmur will have two years under his belt, has experienced coaches under him (like an OC!! grrr), and everyone will be on the same page.
- NO top coach is going to come to the browns. Im not sure who they would replace him with that would be better, and major scheme changes would be disastrous. Jauron would be my top choice right now, but I dont want to loose the defense in the process...

Heckert has made some good choices
- Heckert has also made some bad choices. It would not bother at all to see Heckert shown the door, as long as someone with positive experience is brought in. The team cant have a GM trying to learn on the job.

Holmgren looks like he has done some positive things.
- Unfortunately he hasnt done enough positive, and has made too many bad choices. Go ahead and bring in Banner....


Assuming no major scheme changes, Jauron stays, and the roster is not nuked I dont have much of a problem with replacing a few people this offseason.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:

Heckert has made some good choices
- Heckert has also made some bad choices. It would not bother at all to see Heckert shown the door, as long as someone with positive experience is brought in. The team cant have a GM trying to learn on the job.


Every GM makes bad choices. Go find me the perfect GM and I'd say lets get him, but he doesn't exist outside of perhaps Ozzie Newsome (and even he has big misses)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say Hackett has hot far more than he has missed
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Drew_Carey


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:

Heckert has made some good choices
- Heckert has also made some bad choices. It would not bother at all to see Heckert shown the door, as long as someone with positive experience is brought in. The team cant have a GM trying to learn on the job.


Every GM makes bad choices. Go find me the perfect GM and I'd say lets get him, but he doesn't exist outside of perhaps Ozzie Newsome (and even he has big misses)



Im not asking for a perfect GM as I agree there isnt one, but Heckert has had some big misses which weigh against him.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:

Heckert has made some good choices
- Heckert has also made some bad choices. It would not bother at all to see Heckert shown the door, as long as someone with positive experience is brought in. The team cant have a GM trying to learn on the job.


Every GM makes bad choices. Go find me the perfect GM and I'd say lets get him, but he doesn't exist outside of perhaps Ozzie Newsome (and even he has big misses)



Im looking for a perfect GM as I agree there isnt one, but Heckert has had some big misses which weigh against him.


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.


Ok besides Owen mariecic, what blatantly god awful move has he made........?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.


Ok besides Owen mariecic, what blatantly god awful move has he made........?


did I say he made "blatant god awful moves"?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.


Ok besides Owen mariecic, what blatantly god awful move has he made........?


did I say he made "blatant god awful moves"?


You make it sound that way. You make it sound like he makes more than any other gm
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.


Ok besides Owen mariecic, what blatantly god awful move has he made........?


did I say he made "blatant god awful moves"?


You make it sound that way. You make it sound like he makes more than any other gm


please tell me where I said that....

I said more than once that Heckert has made good moves, and poor moves.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.


Ok besides Owen mariecic, what blatantly god awful move has he made........?


did I say he made "blatant god awful moves"?


You make it sound that way. You make it sound like he makes more than any other gm


please tell me where I said that....



That's how you come off I never said you said it directly. Did I answer your condescending question adequately enough?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.


Ok besides Owen mariecic, what blatantly god awful move has he made........?


did I say he made "blatant god awful moves"?


You make it sound that way. You make it sound like he makes more than any other gm


please tell me where I said that....



That's how you come off I never said you said it directly. Did I answer your condescending question adequately enough?



YOU jumped in this, I didnt come after your post.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I did was gave my interpretation to your post, what I posted is what I took away from it
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.


Ok besides Owen mariecic, what blatantly god awful move has he made........?


Hardesty
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:


Dude every gm has big misses..... Such is the nfl


Dude, I think I know that. Heckert has made good ones and poor ones as I already said.

Every person makes poor choices no matter their position, but that doesnt mean that those poor choices will not be held against them. Everyone has to be accountable for their actions. If Haslam and Banner(?) think Heckert has made too many poor choices and move to replace him than so be it.


Ok besides Owen mariecic, what blatantly god awful move has he made........?


Hardesty


lol
2 moves.

Go look at Bill Belichick's recent drafts.

Travis Taylor! OZZIE SUCKS
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